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Seriously Considering the F2 wheel conversion...

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  1. Outlawz24

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    Alright...one of the mods i have debated making to my 750 is doing the F2 wheel conversion that has been mentioned on here. Now i have some questions about it.

    Could i use aftermarket wheels intended for the F2 for this instead of the stock wheels? (reason for this is because im trying to shave some weight from my bike hence why im even looking at this route)
    What all has to be changed and/or replaced in said conversion?
    how much of a weight and handling difference will this make to my bike?
    Finally what sizes of tires should i be looking at to keep simular to the overall diameter of the stock tires?
     


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    F2 wheels

    Not much in the aftermarket for the F2 due to its age. I can make you a killer deal on a set of F2 wheels; $200.00 with rotors. Also have an F2 front end
     


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    Any pics of the wheels?
     


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    If you're thinking magnesium wheels, they don't hold up to regular street use. With all the potholes and such they tend to bend or crack. They also have a service life of only a few years due to corrosion and aging. Some lightweight aluminum wheels would be a better bet. For $200, I would go with the F2 wheels and try to shave some weight elsewhere.
     


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    Get the whole front end that way you get the way better suspension.
     


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    I was considering some lightweight alloy wheels yes..but i also suspect the F2 wheels may be a little lighter then the original Interceptor wheels given they use a tire with less rubber in it and are made with better materials.
     


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    Sure, any wheels that fit the F2 would work. There are also other wheels that are the same, for example the mid-90's VFR fronts are the same thing as the F2's.

    FYI - The F2 front end will absolutely not fit the VF. They are way too short. I suggest you consider a set of Race Tech Gold Valve emulators instead. They make the stock forks work better than the F2's!

    As for weight, the F2 wheels are lighter than the stock wheels by about 30lbs for the set. That is part of it, but the improvements in handling come from the size of the wheel, not the weight.
     


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    Would using longer tubes help? Or is it a travel issue? Could check with Forks by Frank to see if they make some. http://www.frankmain.qpg.com/

    I'd love to do away with the anti-dive and get some nice 4 pistons on my 13" rotors.
     


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    Im interested in hearing more about those emulators. And as for the 30 lbs weight difference...thats 30 lbs closer to being simular weight to the race VF. One of my goals is to get my bike closer and closer to the performance of the orignal racing bikes. Sounds like with the emulators and the F2 wheels its a step in the direction of having even better handling performance over the racer.
     


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    Justin, I am having trouble sending you email. Price for the wheels is $200.00Do you also want the forks and brakes?
     


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    Sure, but you are looking at a decent amount of money to have Frank make you custom tubes. Plus, I've not heard much good about his quality (or lack there of, as the case may be).

    The Race Tech valves are great. I put them in all of my VF's. For what they cost you can't swap in a different set of forks and be in any better shape. Any other forks would need resprung at least, at that point you would have been money ahead going with the Race Tech parts.
     


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    I've heard the same, just thought I'd get another opinion. I've used the emulators too. Good stuff. And I'll have to make another set of caliper mounts one of these days.
     


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    I got the pics that were sent to me. Names chris not justin btw lol.
     


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    Would the emulators be simple to install at the same time as the fork seals? The more i think about this the more i consider a completel overhaul of the suspension starting with the forks. Im thinking maybe these emulators and new springs...provided i can find something other then the progressive springs.
     


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    I guess it depends on what you think is easy. If you are already changing the fork seals then you are halfway there. Once the forks are disassembled you would need to drill a few holes in the damping rods. This is the part that some people get uncomfortable about.

    A full rebuild is usually a good idea. Most VF forks have never been rebuilt and are lucky to have even seen a fluid change. I almost always find at least bushing that needs replaced when I rebuild forks. Some people cheap out and only replace the bushings are worn badly and leave the others in place. I suggest replacing everything. The parts to do a full rebuild are only about $80 and it's well worth the money. Forks are something you don't want to mess with any more than you have to.
     


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    I am going to do the F2 wheel conversion for my 1984 VF750F. I need the F2 brake rotors too, right? How about calipers? And the sprocket carrier? And are those F2 wheels still for sale?
     


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    Now that this has been brought up from the dead...I do have a pair of forks on a parts bike that could use a total rebuild...Jamie do you rebuild forks for other enthusiasts? If so how much would it cost to have it done and perhaps have some emulators installed at the same time?

    Ooops just looked at your site...i see that you do..there should hopefully be some forks headed your way soon man...is that price per fork or for both?
     


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    Thanks! That price is for both forks.


    No, you do not need the F2 rotors. You can mount your VF rotors to the CBRF2 wheel as long as you have the F2 rotor bolts. In fact, this is kind of handy because front wheels are a lot cheaper without rotors. The VF's speedometer drive gear is used with the F2 wheel. This part needs to be sent to me for modification because it is also the axle spacer on the left side. You need to install VF front wheel bearings into the F2 wheel (they fit) to allow the VF axle to be used. The VF front calipers and brackets are maintained and do not need to be altered in any way.

    You also need the F2 sprocket carrier which must be sent to me for modification. The rear kit comes with a new caliper bracket to allow it to line up properly with the F2's rotor. The F2 rear wheel bearings work fine with the VF axle and do not need to be replaced.

    eBay is the best place to find F2 wheels.
     


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    Which years of VFR front wheel are the same as the F2?
     


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    The '90 to '93 front VFR is the closest to the F2 but it does not have the speedo drive and the rotors on a VFR are 296mm while the F2 rotors are 280mm.

    KILLER DEAL ON F2 WHEELS, FRONT AND REAR WITH SPROCKET CARRIER FOR $100.00 PLUS SHIPPING! ALSO HAVE 2 '90-'93 VFR FRONT WHEELS-MAKE OFFER, I NEED THE SPACE!
     


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