Smog for bikes ?

I was chatting with some guys at the honda dealer tonight and they were saying that in two more years in calif. there will be smog tests on bikes ? is this true ? dose anyone have any facts on this matter ?
maybe its time to sell the house and move east

 

my friend recently had to get his blackbird smog checked, and the test is stupid. i guess the passing numbers are crazy high since there was no cats required in that year. i think he said he bike was running crazy rich and he still passed.

you gotta realize that they cant make you get a cat since it might not have been required when the bike was made (im guessing you have an older bike). just look at the car smog stuff. cats werent required till 75 (i think), so anything before then is either exempt. my 77 had to have cats, and at the time i think i old missed not needing them by a few years.

 

ya most of my bikes are older however the guys were saying that calif. wants to make all bikes 83 and new be retrofited with a cat ? thats why im asking ? thanks

 

Come on over to Arizona. You don't even have to get an emissions test on your bike for registration anymore. Plus you can sell your house in Cali become a millionaire, then buy a house in AZ for 1/4 the cost! Oh yeah, and drive up home prices for everyone already living here so that we can never afford to upgrade.

 

Heck, sell your house in Cali, move to Alabama, Buy a house for 1/32 of the price, RETIRE.......oh yeah, NO emissions on any motor vehicle and if it's paid for you don't even have to insure your vehicles.

 

ooohhh. I'll try not to get too carried away or worked up in my reply ( I hate CA motorcycle emissions laws ) I have been hearing those rumors too, but the part about you having to retro fit your bike with a CAT when it never had one when it was sold sounds like a salesman trying to get you to buy a new bike. They can however require the CAT to be installed if it had one when it was sold, even though they weren't testing when it was sold. make sense? in other words if you punched out your CAT and live in CA you might want to get on ebay and find a "spare exhaust" for "testing" purposes. But wait there's more! I was cruising around on the EPA website and found this ultra cool statement that they made using their studies: "unregulated........ by 2020 motorcycles will account for 2.2% of all road mobile HC emissions, and .3% mobile NOx emissions." WTF?!?! all these regulations and we won't even top 5%?!?!? If that doesn't support motorcycles I don't know what will, and it makes me wonder about their logic. okay enough from me, sombody else's turn on the soap box.........

 

Hey goinphaster,
I agree with you and i think calif. while trying to lead in emissions is so far out in left field, like my quids that i bought new in nov.2006 are gross polluters and are labeled as red sticker OHV's and i can only ride then around half a year and only in listed places , i could see this if they were two strokes but there four strokes and we can ride all most all day on under a gal of gas ? this is part of the reason that i am wanting to leave calif.

 

There is no way this will become a requirement.

 

where was this?

 

But what percentage of road miles come from bikes? Or occupant miles?

Yes we are a tiny percentage of emissions, no one would deny that. But we are also a tiny part of vehicle mileage, so are we out of synch? The percentage of emmissions modified bikes is just so incredibly high (myself included) comparative to cars. And don't think part of all this isn't lead by noise complaints. If you have to take your bike in every two years for a smog check, which generally mean stock exhaust, there will be a lot lower percentage of people willing to pay to swap out the exhaust, back and forth every two years to do the test. This generally speaking, in theory at least, will drop noise, and thus noise complaints. I don't think as much as they would like or imagine, but I have been wrong before.

 

out here in AZ. I THINK he was converting it over from TX or something, but i remember him telling me about getting it smog checked. then again, this was about a year or so ago

 

Jeez even in CA we don't have to do that. If you bring a bike in from out of state, you just have to prove it was built to CA specs. Not a problem for the VFR of the last several years as they are just selling one model across the US. But, you never have to hook it up to a tester of any sort.

I still don't see them doing this across the board as a regular thing like currently for cars. For cars, you need a dynometer essentially, (little less complex, but still) so they can run it at different RPM for the test. So for any state to invest in a bunch of those machines, to test the bikes of individuals, rather than one sample of a model, is just highly unlikely to me. For cars, the cost is spread out over so many users, for a bike, there just aren't as many of us

 

ill check with him the next time i see him and ask why he got it smog checked. i know you used to have to check them to get them on base. maybe i was wrong and it was really to get a sticker for the base. ill ask tomorrow

 

You know, with all this smog on bikes in commiefonia, Im surprised they do nothing with boats. ie 2 454 engines no smog equip with open headers. Oh thats right i forgot, the lawmakers have boats and not bikes. Thats the difference.