Oil change interval

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  1. Azamat

    Azamat New Member

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    Hello fellow VFR fans,
    I bought a '00 a couple of months ago, and due to a poorly-planned trip to the West Coast, and general forgetfulness, I went about 6000 in between oil changes...:wacko:

    It was mostly highway miles, and I've been using fully synthetic oil. Do you think that kind of abuse is going to shorten the life of the engine? How long do you go in between oil changes? I have a little over 23k miles on the odometer, and I don't have any real reason to worry, but worry I do.

    I also have a question about the linked brakes: I just found out that while the pedal actuates both brakes, the lever only works the front brake. Did the previous owner disable this so he could do brake stands, or am I missing something?

    Thanks for any wisdom you can share,

    ~Azamat
     


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    Don't know about your brake question, but I bet mello dude will have some suggestions on what to look at. As for the oil change, I haven't gone that far before, but I have done 4000. I think you will be okay, though. What did the old oil look like? Mine is usually pretty gnarly after 3000 but I am pretty mean to Scratch.
     


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    I usually do the change every 3000 and I fill it with fresh cheap oil (read rotella T) before storage and then change about 60 miles after storage is over with Mobil 1 mx4t
     


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    Seeing as how you were using synthetic, this lessens the change of any excessive engine wear. I wouldn't worry a bit about it, especially since you mostly were riding highway miles, and not beating the old girl up in the canyons. Synthetic oil can go longer (some are better than others though, see below), however, if you do so, make sure to change the filter after 3000 miles or so, as the filter can get dirty.....and I figure if you are gonna do that, then just change the darn oil! Oh, my recommendation, put some of the "good stuff" in her, Redline Oil, best oil out there....IMO. Being running it for years. It ain't cheap, but it is the best.

    http://www.redlineoil.com/

    http://www.redlineoil.com/products_motoroil.asp?categoryID=11

    Not sure about your brakes. Your rear should actuate the left or right front caliper I thought.
     


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    You are fine, I run 5,000 miles as my standard "time to change" interval. You don't mention the time between changes, but infer it was too short to be an issue. What does the manual say for the '00?

     


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    Oil changes - I usually go 2500 - 3000 miles. I ride fairly hard so I have no problem with this. 6000? Change it now dude. If the oil is starting to look like Guiness, its time to start thinking about doing a change.

    Linked brakes? oh boy....... If your system is working properly the front does actuate the rear. I cant say what your previous own did, but look at the left side lever arm and see if any of the lines are blocked off. If any is, you are playing with fire and either need to get it restored or do a rip out job and do a total delink. Its your butt and you dont want it sliding down the pavement.
    - Inspect your brake lines today...

    MD
     


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    the book says every 4k service,but,honda also says that the oil can be changed at 8k,so, don't worry about going over 6.
    I have more than once done this.
    don't worry,when you pull in the front leaver you will get a small % of brake on your rear without pushing down on the brake leaver,and if you put your foot on the rear brake leaver,and don't touch the front brake leaver, you will get a small% of brake on your front, this is how the linked brake system works,but I use the front brake as much as possible when riding,I might just drag the rear when entering a round about,or a corner,but use both when all hell lets loose:biggrin:
    The linked brake system seems to help avoid some front dive so some say.
     


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    Well as soon as I got back I looked up my mileage at departure, did the math, shit a brick, and changed the oil. It wasn't quite as dark as Guinness, but almost. I'm pretty sure the manual recommends oil changes every 3000, but I may be wrong--I'll look it up when I get home (Thanks for the download guys :smile:)

    MD, are you sure the brake problem can be a malfunction? I figured since there are only two lines running to the back caliper, there's only one line that connects the two calipers, and blocking it would result in the brakes working completely independently; but what's happening is the pedal actuates both brakes, while the lever only works the front caliper....maybe there's a valve that isn't working? I'm talking out of my ass here, of course, I haven't looked at the schematics and know nothing of the system. I'll look things up and let you know what I find.
     


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    Don't worry about the oil. As long as the filter didn't stop up. The filter should catch any extra dirt that the oil grabbed during the extended miles.
    As far as the brakes, Lift the rear wheel off the ground, while holding the front lever, try to turn the rear wheel. You should feel some drag from the brakes. Same thing on the front wheel with the rear pedal. I read where a pro rider decided to remove the linked brakes, and got into a mess trying to get the brakes to work independantly. He had a list of required parts a mile long. His experence was that simply blocking off a line did not allow the brakes to work well, at all. He later wrote that he should have left it alone.
     


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    Well, I am checking out the service manual now, since I freaked out when everyone was saying every 3000 miles and my bike was new, had its change at 500 miles, and is now at 5000 miles.
    The manual says change it at 600, 8000, 16000, 24000. So I am not too worried. I figure I will change somewhere between 6 and 7K next.
    Geez, this 8000 miles service is gonna be expennnnnnsive. And then they wanna do the brake fluid change at 12000 which is going to cost me I am betting. I dont mind changing the oil, but I know brake fluid changes can be a bear. I think I will just bite the bullet....
     


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    For the brake fluid change just buy mighty Vac for 40 bucks and place on one end of the bleeder and flush it through while working the lever. It is very easy.
     


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    Ian is right on the link brakes - it kinda works like a loop t loop - pull the front lever and pressure goes to the front calipers. The lever arm on the left side of the bike swings forward and then pressurizes the Master Cylinder on the arm to send pressure thru the steel line to the proportioner valve which sends pressure the rear caliper center piston. The other way around - hit the rear brake pedal, rear caliper presurizes and sends it forward again to the front calipers, which then gets the front master cyl again and back to the rear. Around and around. (This may not be exact but its close)

    The front fork compression when going rear brake pedal only was the main driver of me doing a total brake delink tear up. Check here if interested.

    http://vfrworld.com/forums/brake-ti...ad-s-delinking-brake-saga-interceptor-ss.html
     


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    Agreed delinking with existing brake parts is not a good idea. If you gonna do it, ya gotta do it right. Check here.

    http://vfrworld.com/forums/brake-ti...ad-s-delinking-brake-saga-interceptor-ss.html

    BTW - Ive been with this setup for over a year and the brakes are awesome!

    MD
     


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    not that easy on the newer bikes with linked brakes
    there is several bleed points
    on my '98 there was like 8 I think, off the top of my head
     


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    Is the Gen 5 LBS much different than the Gen 6? On my '04, to test the LBS (front to rear action) you need to lift up on the front left caliper to actuate the piston in the rear caliper. The front lever has nothing directly to do with it (other than causing the drag while you're rolling to rotate the caliper). Maybe that's why he thinks it's not working???
     


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    Yeah - if you grab the front lever with the rear wheel in the air, you still can rotate it. - The front wheel needs to be moving forward so, the left caliper grabs and then the m/c arm moves forward and pressurizes the 2nd m/c and then shoves pressure to the rear. (Honda's version of a better mouse trap)

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    oil type ??

    can anyone tell me what cind of oil my vf1000 r takes i recently bought the bike in pritty ruff conditon and im fixxing her up but never got a manual for her .she needs oil but i dont want to put the rong cind in its a 1985 vf1000 r
     


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