These have since been discontinued. I got mine on closeout from Dennis Kirk for $65 delivered. I simply could not pass up that deal. I ride year round & I wear these for 40f/5c & up. Hottest I've worn them in was 100f/38c & I really wasn't uncomfortably hot. Pics of me in my gallery to see what they look like. Pros: comfortable (I really have no complaint wearing them ON the bike) look good (subjective I know but I like my gear to look like motorcycle gear) very lightweight (feel only slightly heavier than a pair of jeans) good pockets (2 on front, 2 on back comparable in size to pockets on a normal pair of jeans) versatile temp range (see above) good armor (in the right places & seems pretty sturdy) zipper vents (on front of each thigh, helps out in hot weather) Cons: they like to ride down (I fixed that with a $5 pair of suspenders from AAFES Clothing Sales) kind of a pain to get into (you have to take your boots off to get them on) very lightweight (maybe they are too light?) knee armor is annoying when walking (its in the right place while riding but rubs on your knee caps when walking) flaps over zippers (kinda cheap & junky) All in all, I really can't complain since I only paid $65 for them. I give them 7 out of 10. There are undoubtably better pants on the market but I'll wear these for the time being. I plan on buying a set of JR Speedmaster or MotoGP to go with my leather jacket next. KC-10 FE out... lane:
