I wanted something that gave me more distance than the other risers so I ordered this kit from webike.net. The position over stock is a hair under 2" back and about 2.3" up. The bars are shown at full lock. the control stud holes are pre-drilled and no new cables are needed. I rerouted the clutch line, but other than that, you just take everything off and put this on. It is expensive ( 437.00) but worth it for me. The parts are top quality, the installation was a breeze and it gave me the riding position I wanted. I'll be touring this summer with the bro's and it's going to be a blast on this thing