Traction Controlled Brakes - Anyone familar with this product?

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  1. emon07

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    I came accross while doing some surfing. Traction Controlled Brakes (Website link: http://www.tcbbrakesystems.com/traction-control-braking.html): the article I read is below:

    "NEW Motor Sports Safety Product


    Sometimes you here of an invention and wonder, "Why didn’t I think of that?" The TCB Brake System is exactly one of those inventions that just makes so much sense you wonder why you didn’t think of it first.

    Traction Control Brakes are just that, a revolutionary motorcycle accessory invention that will significantly compliment your current ATV Safety Gear and Motorcycle Safety Gear. As riders and manufacturers recognize the need to improve safety they are starting to equip motor sports vehicles with antilock brakes, but the current motorcycles, ATVs and other motor vehicles did not have the option of improving their safety until Traction Controlled Braking became available.

    One of the best parts of the Traction Brakes motorcycle accessories is that they fit on all of the existing motor sports vehicles. Since it would be very expensive to come out with after market antilock brakes to fit all of the existing models Traction Control Braking is a welcomed solution and especially at $79 a wheel.

    To learn more about Traction Controlled Braking just go to the site. Once you read more about the new Traction Braking System go to their site to find the Traction Control Braking dealership near you."
     


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    Sounds bogus to me, esp for the price.

    From my understanding the device works as a way of compensating for the inherent uneven qualities of rotors; when the brakes are applied in a consistently hard manner and the caliper is pressing the pads into the rotor, there will be certain parts of the rotor rotation where the brake will 'grab' harder than on other degrees of rotation. This is because the geometry of the rotor changes, but the amount of braking pressure is unvarying (without respect to if the lever is pressed/released). This sudden increase in drag may provide enough force to lock the wheel.

    The device, in turn, allows braking pressure when the rotor passes through tight degrees to be constant, but allowing the caliper to be compressed back into the brake housing so as to not press too hard to cause the wheel to lock during the rough parts.

    IMO, this logic is flawed. The whole criticism of stock rubber brake lines is that they swell/bulge under hard braking, in essence rubber brake lines would provide the same effect as the device. The whole reason people buy steel braided brake lines is so that the lines do not bulge/flex under braking, which results in a less 'spongy' and more assertive brake feel.

    I do not believe there is enough inconsistency in a broken in/non-damaged (warped) rotor that this device would offer any benefits and would probably be a detriment to braking distance.

    I call scamola, if anyone else cares to counter, please do!
     


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    Or practice emergancy stops and learn how to modulate your brakes. I hate spongy feeling brakes and that is all this gizmo sounds like it does. Makes your brakes spongy.
     


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    My 06 has ABS. I'm not a MC techno wizzie. Isn't that the same thing? I have had two panic stops on the freeway and I have to say, there was no sign of lock up and not a hint of going ass over tea kettle.
     


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    No ABS pumps the brakes very rapidly to prevent lock.
     


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    derstuka Lord of the Wankers Staff Member

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    It is the poor man's ABS Randy. It probably works just as good as this (see link below). Strap some on and you got yourself a 'busa killa!

    Easy cheesy horsepower

    Hang on to'er! :vtr2: Woo hoo!
     


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    It looks to be a basic hydraulic accumulator. Just like its says, its a shock absorber that goes in line with your brakes. Would it work? Well if you a fairly hamfisted on your braking skills, maybe there would be a benifit. But like many guys want to go to stainless lines to prevent flexing, this product does exactly the opposite. It builds in a "flex" in your line.

    Would I buy it? Not really. Maybe only in a spot where the brake is somewhat over sensitive and prone to lock.


    ABS? Anti - lock is a bit of a misnomer. All of them are really an un-locker systems. It has to detect locking, then it un-locks it. Of course over and over at a very high frequency.

    In situations were a human driver/rider can feel the interface of tire/road friction, he can beat ABS if he is skilled enuff. But in low road surface friction situations - ice,gravel,bullshit, ABS will out brake him every time.

    :biggrin: MD
     


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