Linked Brakes

You ARE a scholarly and gentlemanly type! :smile: But the phrase... Does it mean that one is pretty, and smells farts, or that one only smells pretty farts?

And I do suspect that you are lulling me into a state of complacency until you can start another thread that will thoroughly put my knickers in a twist! :biggrin: :smile:

 

LOL I'm with ya my man..

I understand the idea and why on the brake linked brakes When they came out on the 98 XX, at first it looked to be a novel idea, till......................
My take, and some of you riders don't take offense, but the main thing the brakes where to address was a more safe stopping approach, to me this meant new riders where really in a position to take advantage of this technology. so why isn't it on a model like the 59 or? thou something in the back of my mind says, will this make a rider more dependent on a system like this, does it really teach you how to brake? Will it make you lazy in not thinking correct application to braking? All good questions, Now for a good many VFR owners they wouldn't know any different, so hard to say how it all washes out, and this is in no way a substitute for abs, thats a whole other thing. But yea it probably works, is it necessary No. lets hope a new VFR comes with the option like abs. yes or no.

 

For me, since I do not "ride like my hair is on fire" the LBS is just fine. When braking, I think alot about the correct amount of front vs rear on any two-wheeled vehicle, especially with so many dirt and road bicycle miles under my belt. Therefore, I feel it is quite transparent in most conditions. Learning on a KLR 650 (in the dirt) also helped my general braking. I don't mind the LBS at all and I do feel that when Honda "reformulated" the balance of the linking they got it right. But, a LBS on/off switch does sound like a cool idea.

 

LOL , I truly believe that would be one bad a$$ bike :vtr2:

 

Having owned many bike without linked brakes and ABS, and been spat off by a few, I think the LBS is great. Every year I do emergency braking drills and there is no doubt in my mind that I can stop quicker, under better control and more safely with the LBS and ABS systems than I could with non-linked non-ABS brakes. There are just too many variables in street riding to be absolutely in control with emergency braking, which for me is the big issue. Are they better for racing probably not but I don't ride 100% ever. There may be a few, and I mean very few, riders who can do better with a non-linked system but for the rest of us smucks I think the LBS is better.

The maintenance issue is probably real for the do-it-youselfer, but I guess I am lucky enough to be able to pay a mechanic to bleed the system for me so I don't really care about that aspect.

 

Not fair! I WAS GONNA SAY WHAT GRINDER SAID!

(Well put, kind Sir!)

 

well put grinder,........

 

I doubt many people will disagree, but that ABS system is really great! I've engaged mine and the bike stops straight and true, and in a very short distance. I'm very happy I got it, plus it gives me an insurance discount.

 

I am already in the process of figuring out the pieces I need to de-link my brakes - I'm pretty sure I am going to go with either a Brembo or PM rear caliper and Galfer custom lines and eliminating the HMAS (NO MAS, LOL!). I'm hoping to start the process as soon as the first rains of next winter come.....that and some new wheels......linked brakes aren't all they are cracked up to be......

 

I think this (experienced riders vs. inexperienced riders) is a very accurate assessment.

I also feel that if LBS and ABS were more common in the past we'd have more riders expressing more opinions. Perhaps some riders never got the chance to vote today because of the uncommon nature of LBS/ABS...

 

I'm an inexperienced rider, but I don't like the idea of linked brakes (I've done 1.6k miles since licensing).

Maybe I'm just stuck in the rut of not wanting to move outside my comfort zone, I've never even used linked/ABS brakes. :dunno:

 

when I pretend to be mr racer, i would have to say i hated them wouldnt I? but when i just ride the crap outa the bike all year and it stops when i need it to, i love em.....I like abs even more..

 

While I wouldn't have ticked a LBS option box don't mind the Linked brakes of the VFR they are certainly better proportioned than the earlier CBR1000F version and love the way the VFR sucks itself to the road in an emergency stop. Not being a track day junky found the only time was a bit dubious was riding through a stretch of wet slippery grass and mud in a farms paddock.

There is a good article about Link brakes right here on VFRWorld:
( found the manhood comment amusing )

http://wiki.vfrworld.com/index.php/Linked_Brakes

 

Life is not a clean dry race track and the VFR is NOT A SS bike!!!
The real world is a dirty,grimy,un-predictable road ,and the VFR is a real world bike.
I have to do the seemingly "un-macho" thing and declare that I do indeed like linked brakes AND a.b.s.
If I didn't want linked brakes and a.b.s. I would have saved a buck and bought a lesser bike,in fact these features are a large reason why I like the VFR!
Riding out there on the mean,nasty,unforgiving streets is dangerous,and I'm not afraid to say that I'll take advantage of all the technology this bike offers!

 

Yeah,MD,
I don't know which way they'll go with a gen 7,but I do hope it's not the way of the FJR 1300 or the ST.
I don't agree that a gen 6= the FJR or ST,those bikes are BIG!
I do agree that the gen 6 is on the porky side and I hope gen 7 is nimble and capable of long distance comfort.
This seems to be the majority opinion,so I hope somebody at Honda is listening!

Cheers!

 

My 2002's dry weight is 5kg more than a 2001 pre-vtec.
I think you'd struggle to notice that on the road unless you're a riding god. It's 5 litres of fuel, or the difference between a good breakfast and a good dump.