Supreme Court Reviewing DC Gun Ban

This is my rifle
down here is my gun
the rifle's for shooting
the gun is for fun.

:wink:

 

derstuka, all I want to know is where I get a high res version of your avatar...

 

Im with you my friend. Make owning a gun illegal, and only outlaws will have guns.

They will have to pry mine from my cold dead fingers. This political correctness, scaredy cat, moronic, pro femenine-men, pro masculine-women, waive your rights when you wave your flag crap has to end.

The forefathers wanted a small government and a free people. Where did we go wrong... oh wait, I know, how about career politicians for a starter...

sorry if i offended you. but it is my right to. Im also sick and tired of people getting fired and ridiculed for having opinions. Sure, hate crimes are one thing, but if some moron wants to make jokes or dislike a certain kind of person, that is his RIGHT, live and let live.

 

Wait, Derstuka you live in the Peoples Republic of California, you can't have firearms either, at least not the fun ones! I hope the Supreme Court makes the right decision on this one, everyone should have the right to protect themselves. Currently, in DC, only outlaws have firearms, and they like it that way.

And I'd like a high res picture of your avatar too!

 

In states like New York, California, Illinois, etc. Where the gun laws are real tough there's more criminality. Now if you check Vermond where gun laws are liberal, there's minimal crime. Even back home in Puerto Rico, the gun laws are tough, it's almost inpossible for a normal person to get a license to carry a gun, so most of the criminals have the advantage, cuz they have illegal guns. Here in TX is a different story. I have the right to protect myself, my family and my property against whoever criminal. If you give a firearm to responsable, well mannered citizen. Criminal wont even think of commiting crime. Criminals prey on easy targets.

 

Guns don't kill people... Stupidy does. :biggrin:

 

derstuka, I forgot to say. Nice flag pole in that avatar.

 

Read the constitution....it's all about balance of power. Put yourself in the shoes of the founding fathers and you'll understand the push for balance. Some spin doctors will tell you that the "militia" is equivalent to the armed forces and you don't have right to a firearm because they, in theory, have your back and your fire power. Those retards need to look up the definition of a militia. Ordinary people + arms + organization = MILITIA.
The 2A has NOTHING to do with hunting or personal protection or the armed forces. IM less than HO, it's simple. You have the right to own a firearm because in the worst case you can use it to fight corruption of your govenment. Just like the revolutionaries did to create this great country of ours. The last safety-valve on your representatives and commander and chief is a bunch of pissed off citizens with enough fire power to make 'em all think twice.
Forget the comma in the 2A. This is one sentence that conveys one message, not two or three.
This is from a responsible firearm owner, non revolutionary, ordinary joe who loves his country, and trusts his govenment will not need citizens with firearms to keep it honest. I still, however, want my gun and the last word that comes with it.

BTW Stukas avatar is in the galleries in the Moto GP site. I've drooled over it, and others, several times. Poor Canadian lady, can't get a handgun.

 

The language of the Second Amendment was, however, drafted in a time where our country's military wasn't very established and we definitely weren't the premier world power. I think people should keep this in mind to understand the meaning behind the statement. The male citizens were more than once called up to defend the (at the time) fledgling country. "Necessary to the security of a free State", to me, is the government ensuring that when they had call on people to defend their small corner of the earth, they were well-armed to do it...and the goverment didn't have to provide the guns. Some of the founding fathers may have intended to provide themselves with a reason to not abuse their constituents. However, the lack of a true national identity amid the citizenry probably provided more of the motivation to enable the citizens to help defend their country from aggressors (more on national identity: keep in mind that the country wasn't even 100 years old when half of it attempted to anex from the rest :fencing. We were also in direct conflict with THE very definition of imperial world power back then. Our communities back then didn't have neighborhood watches or Amber alerts or even a strongly developed concept of national security. There's more to this argument than just Charlton Heston and his "cold dead hands" statement.

Having said that, I am an avid gun owner and sportsman that thinks every law-abiding American should have the right to own firearms. I, personally, never intend on needing assault rifles or automatic weapons, so I see no problem with them being off-limits to ordinary (read: not law enforcement) people. I actually just bought a Marlin 1895XLR 45-70 Gov't...my dad and I are hunting deer next season with big bore rifles and open sights. That oughta be fun! :rockon:

 

Ask someone in Australia about gun laws. They have VERY strict gun laws. So, does that mean that gun crimes no longer exist there? I don't think so. I'll give up my guns, but they'll have to take all the ammo first....one round at a time....all 4200 of them (this number WILL be increasing in the near future).

 

Ok, here is my take. The "being necessary to the security of a state (free or otherwise) lends clarification to the purpose of a Militia. And I think where people might believe some vagueness enteres is that there is no "and" between "state" and "the right to keep and bear Arms" The "and" in this case, to me anyway, is understood.

Fire away! lol

 

What bothers me the most about the firearm controversy is the stubborn refusal to accept that there are bad people in this world who really will hurt others, given the opportunity. And they will not lose any sleep over it, nor will they obtain their weapons legally.

Career criminals, and wannabe career criminals, would be quite happy if they could have guns and their intended victims could not.

When the subject of accidental shootings comes up, whether lethal or non-lethal, I immediately think of how many living things are damaged or killed by the nonthinking acts of humans. There are much bigger problems than guns to worry about.

Probably what bothers me the most when I hear the argument is the "human life is precious" nonsense. That statement, in its own way, implies that all human life is somehow equivalent in value. Gee, lemme see here, you are saying that my life has the same value as a sociopathic, thieving, raping, murdering scumbag...

I have also noticed that many who are severely anti-gun are also anti-capitol punishment. Makes me wonder if they have done, or are considering doing, something that they should probably be shot or killed for...

One more ugly subject; if and when there is an invasion of the USA, I do not think the invasion can be battled with picket signs and protests. Maybe if we just talk nice to the invaders and explain how we could really get along if they would only try, they will feel bad about their poor human behavior and stop fighting.

 

We have the right to bear arms, I have have a fair collection of them. I would much rather fight without guns if it has to come to that; I don't think carrying a gun is a good idea I don't care who you are or where you are. I also do not think that automatic weapons should be sold to tha public. But to ban guns runs counter to the constitution, period.

 

Stuka, no way I'm going to part with my Glock 40 with lasermax.....just in case they like the special effects.
Katrina should have taught allot of people a lesson. There is a thin line that keeps everyone civil, and in a major catastrophe such as Katrina, you are own your own until order is restored.....IMO.

 

I just noticed your new title. Very nice! And I'm pretty sure you come up with these threads just to keep my "panties bundled", as you so aptly put it (thought I had better phrase it that way in case somebody had missed it previously). You ARE a scheming devil :biggrin:

Hey, great thought here; when the fecal matter hits the rotary cooling device, we can have all the attorneys greet the potential new residents and personally explain the legalities. Silver lining in every cloud...

 

I heard that after Katrina. New Orleans Major and the Governor of Louisiana make an order for all licensed handgun carrier to surrender their weapons, apparently for their safety. But they forgot about the criminals that had illegal weapons, so they had to send the Army to knock door by door and search every house for firearms. I have several handguns and a rifled shotgun that I use for target practice. I recently took the course to get a concealed handgun license. Better be safe than dead.

 

Amen Yoda!