How can we get the oil company's to stop ripping us off??

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  1. elf800

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    Any thoughts on how to get oil companys to stop raising prices for any reason they choose? :mad: In america our consumption went( down )our resevers are at record level high yet they raise prices.. first opec says we raise prices becuase demand is high, then a month later they raise prices becuase they say demand is low??? wtf :mad: no matter what; they make an excuse to raise prices now its the weak dollar if its so weak why can you still get a cheeseburger from mcdonalds for a dollar? its a scam and a lie..I propose we stick together as bikers and start a following dont buy gas from shell (example)buy it somewhere else citco mobil etc.. then shell will have not sold any gas they will be forced to lower their prices so people will buy, then when they do buy from them only!! and soon others will follow becuase now they have no sales..THINK ABOUT THIS:ranger: no one shops or buys from shell for one week; do you think they will do what it takes to get thier customers back???;; of course they will their greed is to high....................................................:clap2: people protesting boycott shell dont buy their products the ceo's will st8n that out until we stop then rip us off again:mad:
     


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    Or, we could all buy stock in Shell, Mobil, etc...
     


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    yes noz but your quarterly dividen check will not make up for the cost of fuel unless you can offord 10 thousand shares..and you pay 28 percent on your gains therfore you only get a 72 percent profit per quarter as they raise gas prices at pump 0ne to two percent a weak..................
     


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    no, it won't work

    prices for gas are up now, even with reserves at highs, because the cost of crude oil is up, substantially at that, crude oil being oil being the major component of gas

    oil is up, because it is traded in US dollars and the US dollar has dropped to nearly (if not all) all other currencies in the oil trading world

    also people are buying up crude oil as a commodity and hedge against inflation, as they do they bid the price of crude oil futures up higher and higher
     


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    oh, and be prepared, it is going to continue to go up in the near future

    mostly what you hear on the news is the price of oil futures, meaning what it is going to be going forward, not what it is now

    there is a delay for the recent run up to be displayed at the pump
     


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    spike you got it down almost ..so should we not try to combat the greed after all we pay at the pump we not pay at one pump they have an item no one is buying therefore forces prices to drop, look at motorcycle sales going up to save on gas buying small cars to save on gas, this summer demand will rise as now becuase of spring break people travel then it will fall anytime there is a reason for travel they raise prices. oil futures do not drive the price up it is a guess or speculation a hope if you will that they rise if they dont hit the mark you bought them for then you loose your money kinda like the ice storm kills orange crop then buy orange future becuase demand is equal but product is less the oil is infinant as how much they want they just stop or slow production to create demand for what they have that is the minipulation!!!!
     


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    This is an easy question. Here's the answer.

    There's not a damned thing we consumers can do about it. I don't ride as much as I used to.......


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    I beg to differ, I ride more than I used to. I drive the cage much less! The VFR isn't super on fuel but it is much better than both of my cars!
     


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    Unfortunately, my job has me on the road in a company car all the time. I only ride for recreation, and it gets more difficult to justify as the prices rise. So, in the last month, I've purchased two more projects!!! I guess I can look at them when I'm done.......


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    If you want to really stick it to the man (big oil/coal/electric) elf, buy/use less gas & energy. Plain and simple as it sounds. You can argue all you want, but it is the best and most feasible way right now. Trade in your big truck or gas guzzler car for a high-mileage hybrid, slow down on the freeway and stop the jackrabbit starts from a greenlight, ride your motorcycle more to work and for errands, ride a bicycle or walk to the store/errands, consolidate your multiple errands/trips into one trip, take mass transit as much as you can, buy photovoltaic solar panels for your house, invest in a wind-powered energy generator (not cheap, but it would be free from big oil/coal/electric) on your property, by reusable grocery bags, buy a water filter instead of using a new bottled water everywhere, etc, etc...the list is never-ending. Every little bit helps, and would be less fuel/energy used or needed to be produced for our needs/demand.

    Main idea, "use less fossil fuels, and more human fuel (walking/bicycling)." Less consumption = less demand = lower prices, or at the very least, less money that "you" are spending on fuel.

    Yadda, yadda, yadda...
     


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    Stucka is right. I say we all just start walking to work.
     


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    Never happen, But if all, and I mean the folks on this planet would take a stand and stop using fuel consuming vehicles for a couple days this should show the oil company's we mean business, but yea right, like that would ever happen. They have us right where they want us. Then when the supply demand ratio drops they'll just raise the prices more to off set sale loss, and so goes the run around.
     


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    supposedly the high prices push for more alternative fuel choices being researched. i think much more is burned in factories and such according to something I read. I think we'll be just fine. We are just going to have to adjust to fuel being our most expensive expense after housing (or in some people's case it may be higher than housing). I don't like it but there's not a damn thing I can do about it, at least not that I have figured out yet.
     


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    The reason oil company's have so much power is because so many people are using their product. Stuka's idea is a good one but will only work on a wide... ok huge scale. The emails that float about regarding "don't buy gas on a certain day" are a start but again we all need to join in. Even then, we the general people won't have that much of an impact. Think about all the aircraft using fuel... how about all the supertankers using more than a weight of an aircraft in fuel in just one haul.

    IMHO were hooped. I have a bunch of buddies working for oil company's. The money that gets thrown around is insane. Prices could be cut in half and they would all still be loaded beyond there dreams. Yes we have it good compared to some other countries but that doesn't make it ok. You need to look out for yourself cause we will not change anything.

    Where I live house prices are insane. People are being forced to move further away from work and that is increasing their daily expenses beyond their means. Credit debt is climbing and the pressure has focused to employers to pay their employees more just so they can survive.

    :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
     


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    Yeah, I agree Jason. I was speaking more of how each individual (like elf) can get away from "the man" and lower costs for themselves, and if enough people did it, even a 10% change would be huge. It would not be easy, but it would be a huge impact.

    One thing I will say is that I do not think those e-mails which circle around telling us not to buy gas on a certain day does anything at all. I mean, when you think about it....if everybody doesn't buy gas one day, they all just come and crowd all the gas stations the day before and the day after. There is no difference. Same consumption and same profits. This also has not effect on OPEC, only locals stations owners really. Only way is to consume less and use alternative means of fuel and travel. If a large number of people do not drive a car for for 1-2 days, or mass transit/walking to work for a week, that would be more of a statement.
     


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    our local government has solved all these problems. after a visit from Arnie the governator mr green himself, a great inspiration to our premier. we now have a carbon tax. this tax is going get us all out of our cars the oil companys are going to go broke and we can all breath clean fresh air.
    what a great plan why didn't we come up with this years ago.:flock:
     


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    I think there are some intelligent people on this site ,and as a consumer there has got to be a way to get their attention(opec) buy changing our buying patterns or maybe a protest is in order remember when the big rig trucks stopped in the streets of major cities to lower diesel they cost other companys money people got to work late everyone new why now maybe you piss off a FAT CAT then things change until then us workin joes get the shaft.
     


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    lets go people think...
     


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    are we there yet????? h8 my slow comp hangs up then goes to fast....
     


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    It's a two part problem.

    1) Big Oil is price gouging & raping the consumer. Like it or not, there isn't much a person can do.

    2) India & China are developing at an astronomical rate. We do have some control of this. We could simply nuke both places & therefore reduce thier consumption. Not a very logical solution, eh?

    Simply put, we are screwed & there isn't thing one that can be done for the situation. So what I'm trying to say is, suck it up. In 2 year, we will be THANKFUL for $4/gal gas.

    KC-10 FE out...
    :plane:
     


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