Octane preferences

How about we try something different, & just answer his question & end the thread.
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They only have available 91 octane fuel in his area & he wanted to know if that was OK, or if he needed higher octane.


The simple answer is the 91 will be more than fine & you will not need any more than that :biggrin:


Now :tape:

 

Now what fun would that be?...... onward Ho...:vtr2:

 

Hey Stuka: I like the 'beating a dead horse" icon. Perfect!

And anyway, wasn't his question answered by the first person to reply? And the second one nailed what the manual says.

The gist of my response was to point out that this question has already been answered several times in the past. A history search for common questions is always helpful. You'll save time and get your answer quicker. Now, when something changes or you have a new perspective, go for it, start a new thread and indicate in the title that there is something new with an old favorite.

 

run regular
Honda doesn't dictate a higher octane
lots of miles

and a lot of times the additives are heavily promoted with the super, but actually contained in all the fuels of a given company

just buy it from a busy place that is reputable

 

My sincerest apologies for starting a thread that the site finds useless. I shall never again show such wanton disregard for forum etiquette. And people thought sport-bike riders were ass hats...from where would they get that silly idea?

 

Well don't run off making generalizations. Clearly some people answered your question and some innocently made a joke about the popularity of such threads. I could care less if a thread topic repeats, it gives me a chance to throw in my $0.02 many times (as if anyone cares), and that's fine by me :biggrin:

 

Sweet...it's nice to see someone who honestly knows how to look the other way when something boring or inane comes along. Thanks for being understanding. And $0.02 can be worth a lot to the right person.

 

PuCaudata, I think you are being a bit overly sensitive and sarcastic. No one was telling you your topic was "useless." What the other, very experienced Forum members/Moderator were pointing out was that this topic has been covered before in great detail and it has been a topic that polarized folks like oil threads have. The search I did on "octane" shows 74 hits. While not all of them are right on your topic, the recent thread on octane (started in April 2007 and ran to 2/28/08) has 83 replies and 2650 views and covers the subject in great detail. Many of the members jumping in today have multiple entries on that one. If we didn't like you or your post, we'd tell you. We were just expressing what we thought and were trying to do it with some humor. And you did get lots of real answers, mine included...86 most of the time...88 once in a while. The manual says 86 is the choice, etc. Relax and you'll have more fun here. We are not juding you.

 

I appreciate the advice you all have given me and look forward to garnering more in the future. Just take care how things might come across on these forums. Sans voice inflection or facial gestures, the humor you're accustomed to might come across as rather abrupt or rude.

I've been running 91 octane fuel and I think it's been running a lot better than on the 88. That could just be some sort of self-fulfilling prophecy, but it really does seem to make a difference.

Funny story...I went to register it today. When I came out of the building, the VFR had snow on the seat. Crazy Montana weather...it'll snow, rain, thunderstorm, and be 65 and nice in the same day. So, I very gingerly made my way home...and then silently apologized to my bike.

 

You are very right...it IS easy to be unsure with just words. I know lots of the folks use the icons to indicate when people are joking, or being sarcastic to make a point. I usually add in a "I'm just joking" especially when talking to or about DerStuka! None of us can figure out who he bribed to become a Moderator (I AM JUST JOKING, STUKA!).

This Forum is way better because we all have LOTS more fun than the other one! Thanks for being up front and joining in the fun.

I for one would love to see a test on various octane fuel in our bikes. There were lots of interesting points raised in the past and hard to know what is fact. I just know the bike runs so sweet with anything!

 

i was wondering where is the below 86 octane located at never seen that pump hummm. ohh yea 86 is the lowest made for bike other wize it will have detonation if octane is low see octane is needed for higher compression engines therefore the result is more power hence the higher octane the better ran 112 in my kx250 and believe me made a difference from 93....or 86 is as cheap or the crappiest gas made and you get less gas mileage try it fill up 86 then 93 go on long ride you'll see get few more miles per gallon then the price difference is equal.............:smash:

 

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regular grade fuel is "hotter"
"Premium fuels" (higher octane) actually run cooler, burn slower, and produce less power (with all other varriables being consistant)


the owners manual says to run "regular" fuel
the only real reason to run higher is to prevent knock (if you're getting knock on a 6th gen, you've got issues)



you "can" get more power when running premium/high oct fuel,
but the power is not from the fuel, it's from advancing the spark timing
the knock resistance of higher octane allows you to do this

but still, there is more power in regular grade fuel

 

Unless you increase compression or timing in your bike running a higher than manufactured recommended octane will actually decrease the performance of your bike. Note: all fuels these days no matter the octane have detergents in them, some more than others based on brand "not octane".

I have exhasut and PCIII on my bike and use 87 octane and the bike runs awesomely with absolutely no sign of detonation.

Quit throwing your hard earned money away on higher octane fuel.

 

I used 91 in my previous bike and will use 91, Shell, in my RWB... main reason? Here 87 Octane can use up to 10% ethanol, 89 5% but the 91 is guaranteed to be 100% gasoline... *shrug*

 

PuCaudata (putamen/caudate nuclei?):

I'm a newbie. I've participated in a number of Internet discussion forums (e.g., photography, digital photography, BMW motorcycle sites, etc.), and I've learned a few lessons along the way, which you may find helpful:

1) When you find a forum that you'd really like to join, by all means sign up and register as a new member. But, before you jump in and begin posting questions (as well as posting comments), allow yourself to quietly "lurk" for a good while. Take the time to comb through and explore both active and inactive threads. Carefully watch for those members who seem to consistently offer helpful, mature, seasoned, well-reasoned and well-explained advice; from those who consistently seem to be more interested in being unhelpful and antagonistic pot-stirrers.

If you have questions, first carefully search the archives, since quite often your initial questions may have already been asked, and answered, ad nauseum. (While there's no such thing as a dumb question, other members may find it annoying if one asks a question that's already been repeatedly addressed in the archives.) Bottom line: First do your homework by exercising the site's "Search" engine. Use it. It is our good friend.

2) Once you decide to jump in and begin posting questions (and maybe eventually offering comments to a given thread), first take the time to humbly introduce yourself. Give the online community some background about yourself, your level of riding skills, etc.

3) Actively and vocally participating in most any online discussion forum requires a thick skin. Check your ego and your pride at the door before you enter, but be sure to take your brain with you. Note any information you feel is helpful, and leave behind the rest, but don't ever take what you hear online as the gospel truth. Seek consensus, and before you make any weighty decisions, check with your dealership's technicians. (Opinions abound on the Web, and opinions are like assholes-- everyone has one.)

4) As you sort through the various responses to online questions within a given thread, you may (if you're paying attention) encounter certain senior members who at first seem to be crusty and ill-tempered curmudgeons. Be careful before you dismiss their advice just because it may initially rub you the wrong way. Quite often, these old salts have much to teach, and their initial responses may be testing you to see if you have the commitment and the Chutzpah to wanna learn from the Big Dogs. They deserve our utmost respect as newbies.

 

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