"that will only last 20 sec..."

So I have been commuting for a few weeks now on the bike becasue the car is down....I had to go to our other building yesterday were their is another guy that rides. He has aearly 2000's ZX9R that is set up to be a "Street Fighter"

I showed up in my tour master overpants, joe rocket mesh jacket ( both with the CE armor ), gloves, boots etc. and he made the comment to me of " That stuff will last ony 20 sec in a slide.."

My way of thinking is, even if it lasted only 20 sec, that would be 20 sec more of no skin rash, and hopefully my momentum would be MUCH less by then to reduce injury.

So my question to everyone is, How well deoes the mesh gear hold up in a slide?

 

I hope you don't have to slide for a full 20 seconds. Try counting it out.

 

I have heard that Joe Rocket mesh does not hold up well, but I have no personal experience with it. I had (ok, still have but don't use) an Icon Merc Textile jacket that held up extremely well in my crash. All I got was some textile burn on my right arm, and it was not really al that bad, from the heat where I slid a bit. As for how long you will slide, if you slide for 20 second you must be on ice or somthing smooth. I di dnot slide anywhere near 20 seconds and in fact at some point I started to tumble (tuck and roll baby) I digress............ If I wanted, I could still use the Icon jacket. Like I said, it held up well. It did get a small hole in the left elbow, but nothing that would bother me if I used it when I ride. If you can afford it, I suggest a leather jacket. I have a Teknic Chicane jacket that is perforated in the front and flows air pretty decently.

 

My Next Jacket will be a perferated leather. I just need airflow through the jacket as houston is a hot / humid place to ride. The more air you can get to flow the better.....

 

I have a JR Phoenix Mesh jacket that I crash tested. I slid about 30 feet (probably about 2 to 3 seconds) and had no problems with the jacket. The pavement burned through the first layer of cloth on one of the elbows and the back. I didn't get any marks from the jacket and it didn't ride up on me. I was wearing jeans and they shredded and I had some road rash on my legs. I now wear TourMaster Caliber over pants. Oh yeah, if his ZX-9 is a "street fighter", ask him how long his fairings held up in a slide.

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Ive got a Joe Rocket Leather HRC coat for sale on here if anyone wants to upgrade from mesh. Very reasonable price. See classifides.

 

LOL that was what I was going to say, it's a lot longer than one thinks. 20 seconds is a life time going down.

 

And so the money question I have is:

What does he wear everytime he rides?

Even if your mesh jacket lasts 3 seconds, that is 3 seconds before your skin starts to ablate.

Medic folks, this is an serious question: Even if the plastic melts and gets in your wound... isn't the pavement full of dirty germs?

Would anyone recommend nothing instead of a textile mesh jacket/suit?

If you have the speed to slide 20 sec. I'm guessing the real problem will not be wearing through your skin, but your bones breaking when you meet something going much slower than you... like the guardrail, or vehicle, or curb or the sharp edged sign pole (I hate it when that happens)

Cleansing breath... ahhh.

 

Leather wouldnt last 20 seconds on me in summer, it's too hot. So long as you have armour in the elbows, shoulders and forearms I think mesh would do an ok job.

 

I'm having moment just thinking of tumbling for 20 seconds, my huge get off lasted like 5, way to many even then. shit happens faster than one would think. at 60mph aka freeway, man you'd travel a longs ways being nothing hit you nore you it

 

The big crashes require something called 'surgical debridement' where they put you to sleep and literally use a pressure washer and a scrub brush to get the dirt and rocks out of your skin. The surgical part is cutting to remove the rocks that are embedded like shrapnel. Recovery is much like burn care where the procedure may be required more than once and can include skin grafts that take months and several surgeries to complete.
Any protection is better than bare skin( tank tops and bikinies ). Mesh is good, but it can melt or tear quicker than leather. Leather is better, thick leather with pucks/pads is best due to the fact that there is several layers between you and the road. The pucks/pads act as shock absorbers and protect the bones/joints.
The original statment is assinine. Protect yourself/skin/brain/bones.

 

You're not going fast enough. :bolt:

I wear full leather jacket and mesh pants, even in the summer. It's only hot when I stop. They also have a zipper that connects them to keep the jacket from riding up.

 

20 Seconds at 60mph is 1,760 feet! I can't imagine ever sliding 1/3 of a mile. At 100mph, 20 seconds is 2904 feet which is over 1/2 mile! If it holds up for 20 seconds, it would be plenty of time to slam into a pole, tree, or even an oncoming car. Then a little rash would be the least of your problems.

 

In the heat of Arizona summer I wear a First Gear Textile jacket that zips to the pants. I've removed the foam pads and replaced them with CE armor. Rest of the time, I wear a Kangaroo jacket and cow pants zipped together. The kangaroo held up well in an 80mph lowside and slide. Never crashed in the textile.

 

Lots of good info, I have been reading up. Found out that the tour master pants are rated pretty well. No good info on the jacket, but it does have all the padding and zips to the pants.

I never did stop to thnk how long 20 sec would be in a slide....definitly something that I do NOT want to do. 1/3 mile is to long LOL

I ride to work more than anything, and my commute takes me about 25 miles a day with 1 spot that I can open up a little, other than that I am in slow moving or stop and go traffic...

 

To give you an idea of sliding for a long time might look like, I have included this video bonus link. Count the time outloud.

 

I guess this is a silly question...what exactly is the differenc between "Mesh" and "Textile." "Textile" is such a vague reference (anything made from fabric if you use the old fashioned definition) and "mesh" sounds like one of those 1980's tank tops with the 1/4" holes in it. I have a KTM ADVENTURE jacket so I assume that is "textile." I had a Kawasaki jacket that I crashed in and it tore fairly easily...was that "mesh?" (I ride my Dainese leathers most of the time so it is not an issue until the big heat this summer when the KTM might get the nod again.) How does one tell which is which?