6th generation VFR ?

Okay all you 6th gen owners speak up. LOL as good as you folks say your 6th gen is, that said nothing is perfect. What in your Opinion is one or more short comings you have felt your VFR could be improved on? LOL less vtec, thats a no brainier

 

R, well, you're stirrin' the pot again!

I thought we just went through this with that other thread! :biggrin:

I don't own a 6th gen, but from reading the specs here's some things I'd like it to have:

1) Less weight
2) Adjustable suspension.
3) No Honda HMAS (one can only hope Honda will abandon this flawed design for damping)

 

If I had to complain about something, it would be that it doesn't have the gear driven cams. I'm coming off a 5th Gen and I will say that the 6th Gen is more stable and has better suspension, but the engine is a draw (which isn't a bad thing because it was already good). I do miss those gear driven cams though which is why I've asked before if VTEC precluded the use of them. I've still got my 2nd Gen, so it's not like I'm totally out.

 

My biggest gripe is probably the weight of the bike. I know VFRs for years have been a bit hefty, and the 6th gen is certainly not out of the ordinary... but still, I'd like something maybe 50lbs lighter at least.

I'd also like more exhaust noise. It seems like the sound of the engine overpowers the exhaust, and that seems backward to me :smile:

 

less weight

lower cost of aftermarket peices

 

i want more aftermarket support, these guys seem to think noone buys VFR's.

 

Don't ya love it :biggrin: No really though, lots of topic on why one likes their VFR why you pick one over other models, but no one says what bugs em after they've owned it awhile. so far so good

I'm on page with ya with it needing those goodies you mentioned there. Plus like another 200 cc LOL and cam gears.

Stir away.......

 

I would like the bike to lose about 50 pounds in the redesign like BMW did with the 1200GS.

I would like more low-end torque like a Triumph Rocket tourer has.

I would like an adjustable suspension like the Multistrada S model has.

Seriously, I am pretty satisfied with it the way it is. I bought a seat and I'll buy a new set of Leo Vince cans and a PCIII. Other than that, it will stay stock until I buy a newer better bike. I really don't see much point in spending thousands of dollars to mod the bike. It will never be a 1200GS or a MTS or a Triumph Rocket! It is what it is - a very competent touring motorcycle that performs pretty well in the backroads.

 

Yeah, less expensive aftermarket parts would be good. Minor stuff adds up quickly. Ditto on the adjustable suspension, although the stock stuff is decent.

And I know everyone is tired of my whining on this subject, but it annoys me to remove and install cams just to CHECK valve clearances. Leave me alone; hopefully I'll get over it.

I am impatiently waiting for an opportunity to put in a 300+ mile highway trip to see how I like it on that front, but it is growing on me every time I ride it. Other than a brief spin on an '85 years ago, I haven't had any experience with the VFR's.

Good bike, overall. Glad I finally got one.

 

I have edited this post because I was accused of not playing well with others by Derstuka.

 

Better thread topic? sheesh, they are all ready the talk of the town, talked up more than any previous version, more dominate than any VFR model out there, believe out of all the VFR made the 6th is running 2-1 in ownership maybe even 3-1, what else is there left? Bring it on guys. I know there's something bugging ya.

 

R... I think the problem is that this thread has already attracted comments like these:

which really have nothing to do with the original intent of the thread... My guess is that you wanna hear from people who OWN the bike and wanna hear about issue's their having with what is or isn't there. I think it's a great idea but also think it's going to go sideways like the rest.

If I'm right you wanna hear that I wished the electrical system was better and stronger. Able to handle more accessories without having to worry about having my high beams on. The rest is all good or can be easily rectified.

Sorry for the above, just my opinion.

 

Jason, though I don't own one, I did look at 6th gens before buying my bike; and I made a thorough review of the spec sheets as part of that. I don't have to own one to know that I'd like it weigh less or have adjustable suspension.

The same comments apply equally to my 5th gen; I'd like it to have less weight and adjustable suspension, too.

As for HMAS, that's been an issue on all Honda's sportbikes since '97 or '98. I put about $1500 into my F4i's suspension just to deal with this design flaw.

 

Ok RVFR, you're right. I sincerely apologize for being so hostile in my last post. You didn't deserve that shit from me. I hope you accept my apology :redface:.

One of two things that piss me off: That the damn factory hard bags cost $800.00-$1000.00!!!!!!! Enough said.

I don't really notice the weight that much, the bike feels very planted and stable, however, the high speed compression dampening of the stock suspension setup blows! I can hear the: SET THE SAG shit comin' already. That ain't it, believe me I've spun the friggin' adjusters enough to get FM stereo, no good. I will spend the $2500.00 to fix this, but the overall lack of adjustability of the suspension is a joke. All modern bikes should have high and low speed compression and rebound dampening adjustments, PERIOD. It's not like it's new expensive tech or somethin'! I have waffled around as to how I was going to fix this, but I am now heart set on a Hyperpro shock and Traxxxion (I couldn't resist the triple x's, LOL!) Dynamics custom buillt cartridges. The cartridges will run $1100.00, not installed and the shock will be about $800.00 with my insider discount ( Sorry, can't do it for everyone, don't even ask!). This should fix the last remaining nag that I have. Other than that, watch my upcoming posts to see my final engine tuning configuration....it will be pretty nice......

 

Nothing to do with you owning one or not... My understanding is that the question was soliciting owners to have any issues that they have with their bikes brought into the open. That does peek my curiosity. If I'm wrong, my apologies.

If were talking in general about what one would think would make a better 6th gen or a better VFR there are threads littered with opinions already. And if that is the intent of this one looks like I already wasted my time with it.

No offense Puma/RVFR

 

I have edited this post because I have been accused of not playing well with others by Derstuka.

 

Only real issue is choppy throttle in low gears, making it challenging to take tight turns at lower speeds. Maybe it will just take some practice, but seems twitchier than other bikes I have owned.

 

This high speed compression damping problem you're referring to, NCB, is the result of Honda's HMAS design. And you're exactly right, setting the sag will, as you've pointed out, have virtually no effect. It's not a spring preload issue. The problem is due to the fact that the holes in the Honda valves are so small that when the suspension hits a sharp edged bump (inducing high speed wheel movement), not enough oil can get through the tiny little holes in the valves quickly enough, and the the suspension hydraulic locks. It's a stupid design, which is why I vent about it to the extent I do. The irony is that it would cost Honda virtually no additional expense to valve the suspension properly; it's only the issue of using a larger hole rather than a smaller one.

The only solution to this is, as you've pointed out, revalving the forks and getting a proper shock.

 

I should point out, that while I don't own a 6th gen, I have ridden them; one of my ex-girlfriend's had one and I've ridden hers, but I understand your specific points above and agree. I used to want her VFR and she wanted my F4i (she felt more confident on it due to it's lower weight).

No offense taken. :smile:

 

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