85 V45 Saber canada model front wheel swap ?

OK, I know it sounds weird & asking why ????

But I p/u a Canada model 85 V45 Saber showroom clean with only 8000 orig miles on it (thank you Canada winters:clap2: ) for $800.00 bucks .

it has that 19" mag on the front on it (stock) & I have a garage full of 17" take offs (qualifiers & GP209's) from track day's & racing in 50 to 75% condition.

So I figure a CBR F2 or F3 front wheel would swap out using the V45 stock forks (& rotors if they'll fit ) to make use of the tyres i have & to change the geomotry a little to help with a little quicker steering (changing the stock clip-ons to shorter stock VFR clip-ons as well)

Does anyone know if this will work or am I left with having to swap out the forks ?????


Oh & why I p/u the bike is for a around town putter & friend visiting bike for showing him around & a short sport touring bike.

But mostly I had the 3rd or 4th one sold on the west coast when they 1st came out in '82 & for nostalgia reasons would like to have it (memories :biggrin: )

Any help or ideas on this would be appreciated

 

Hate to send you elsewhere, but the answer will most likely be found on the SabMag list.

http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sabmag

 

Leave it alone, north of 40! If nostalgia counts, keep it original!

with all those other far better bikes to ride, why fool around with or spend money on improving this antiquated klunker??

would it make good sense to you if i sent the forks on my '72 CB 750 to Lindeman for an upgrade?? didn't think so!

buying your old granny a jogging outfit and new trainers aint gonna make her faster on her old feet!

 

Antiquated Klunker?? My '82 Sabre has the same if not more oooomph than a lot of VFRs. Just sit on it, hit the gas, and hold on. I kinda like the stock mag wheels, however. Kinda gives it that kool '80's look.

 

SO, MR. EDDIE??
You're saying a first gen pre-'86 is just as good or better than an '86??/'87???

(i've NEVER denied that i may be misinformed!)

 

Seems like we've been down this road before. :biggrin:

 

well, Nostalgia counts only because I had 3 B-4 ('82 Saber, '83 Saber, & a V65 Saber), brand new off the showroom floor & had fun on them.
BUT !, I never said anything about being faster mods, I said handling mods & anybody that's owned a bike or car that I know of from the 50's to present has helped out handling where they could on there bikes/cars & yes, my CB750 had it's forks re-valved & newer Race-Tech springs put in).
Since I remember the sabers as a kinda slow steering (for a sportbike/sport tourer & the hot tip back then was to put the VF700/750/1000 front ends on them.
I confirmed the slow steering by riding a 85 V4 700 Saber the other day.
I believe I would have more fun & others on it with a little better handling.

Also I pointed out savings of Hundreds if not thousands on Tyres because I already have them (I have 22 120/70/17's front take offs in my garage = 9 Qualifiers & 13 209's).

I also have access to a complete F2 front end for free that I "WAS" going to use on my GT647 Hawk, so no extra costs there I just rather swap out the mags/tyres than the whole front end.

Whether that changes your opinion or not, I'm most likely will do that or put a RC51 front end on it that I have a spare of as well :biggrin:


Oh & Thank You veefer800canuck, I did contact SabMag & signed up.

 

veefer800canuck HELP !

I signed up on SabMag & now it won't let me in the forum to post up my question, in fact it doesn't even show a password sign in on the home page

So I shot a e-mail over the site people & no response ????

Do you know anyone on the site that can be reached to help me or simpler post up my question for me :biggrin:

I get the responses from the sabMag site to postings (strange), but as I said I can't get into the forum.

(Although some on this forum wishes I couldn't post/reply :wink: :biggrin: )


Thanks !

 

Front end mods

Heah, its your bike, do it. I always thought the Sabre had more potential, and that sounds like a good candidate. While your at it, replace the drum rearend with a V65 rear end for triple disks.

Just an idea.

Larry

 

I think you should not do this, It is not the right bike for modifying, at least not in this way. Simly buying new 19" tire is the right thing to do.

 

sussi,
Actually it's a 18" (for some reason I thought it was a 19:doh: ) front rim & like I said B-4, back in the day was common to replace the stock front end with a shorter stock tubed forks & 16" front rim from the VFR500/750/1000 to help the bike stir quicker.

I don't want to go that far, but use a 17" rim & VFR bars to help with the geometry & most of all give me a better tyre selection (& the fact I have a sheeeit load of 17" front radials:wink: ).


Now Safetypro10, I almost started this reply with, I hate you for the V65 idea, but it clicked that I don't use the rear brakes except @ a stop light on a hill waiting to turn green. So basically not @ all:wink:
also just looking @ the swing arm, I'd have to use the V65's swing arm & the V-65 rear rim
Got to admit it was a cool thought @ 1st :smile:
but that would bring me into $$$ to the bike when I'm really not wanting to do that!

 

That's because it's not a web-based forum, it's a good old-fashioned text-only email list.

That is why you are getting replies in your inbox, because you've joined the mailing list.

You'll have to send an email addressed to the list server address (sabmag@mit.edu), with your question, and the server automatically redirects and copies it to the entire list population, however many hundred (thousand) there may be.

They in turn respond to your email which can be read by all the listers.

Remember, when you send your query to the sabmag@mit.edu address, you are broadcasting to an audience of thousands so type accordingly. They have a wealth of experience over there, so someone should be able to help.

Informational Linky:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_mailing_list

 

Sorry I still think it is a bad idea. Lots of problems,lots of money and time wasted. And I think the result would only be bike with por steering and hard to handle.
Buy a new tire and sell your "sheeeit load of 17" front radials"

Good luck.

 

Thanks veefer800canuck, I think I figured it out now :wink:
Can't wait for the million replies of - WTF, WHY, R U NUTS, ect, ect, but maybe one will know & know what I'm trying to do :biggrin:

I do sell them to stunters over here once in a while(mostly rears though), but I keep adding to the pile because I won't run tyres past 50%, especially @ the tracks, & I do ride street & tracks alot, actually ALOT !

It has new tyres on it now, like it for super-slabing, but as soon as turns are envolved its just waaaaaaay to slow of steering for my taste & bad feedback.

Albet the reason to lower the tyre hight & change the geometry for a little quicker steering.

Sussi, remember that the Sabre is about a foot longer than the modern sportbikes & sport-tourers so with the slight geometry change, it still will be a very stable platform.

 

Well, it is your problem, not mine:wink: And I know what kind of bike you are talking about. Just don´t say I did not warn you. :biggrin:

 

Well, I got no responce from the SabMag members, so I went ahead & ck'd it myself.

The front axles are different but i ck'd & I can press out the F2 mags bearings & replace with ones that have a smaller axle bore to work with the Sabre's axle.
The Disc mount diameter of the mount holes are the same, so I can use the Sabre's discs & stock calipers.
I temporary riged the 17"mag & 120/70/17 Qualifer on the front & as I can tell it fits no problem & will work just fine.
Even the speedo works (how accuratly is just a guess @ this point) & will ck it out with my GPS when all up & running.
The VFR bars will be done after the front is complete.
Then I'll see how much the geometry change will effect plus or minus in the handling (I'm guessing tons better).

I'll keep you all posted :wink: