V-tech- Over all positive or negative?

ha ha I thought as much :biggrin:

Well if the price is right...:wink:

 

Oh ya what is up with that.

 

Ironically, my other Honda is an Acura TL-S 6 speed. :biggrin:

 

It's all good. My friend bought my 5th Gen and we do get out and ride together. We switch bikes and I admit that I do miss it. He is currently looking for a 919 and when he finds it, he has promised that he will sell it back to me. So, I'll have my 5th Gen back in the not too distant future. That'll go along with my 6th, 2nd and my '86 500. Over time, I want to get a 1st, 3rd (white) and 4th. The soul that you're talking about is the gear driven cams. The soul on the 6th Gen is the sound of the VTEC kicking in - it is awesome.

 

One of the reasons I like my black 06 is because "it looks like it's out to eat children for breakfast."

Was only on it once before the snow arrived, and really look forward to hitting the 6400RPM mark to find out what happens...

It's going to be a very very long winter. :smow:

 

Do I really have to say it?

 

Thats funny you say that cause I always thought the Acura's were better looking, more refined and more sought after than the basic Honda's. :wink:

Soul = "The animating and vital principle in humans, credited with the faculties of thought, action, and emotion and often conceived as an immaterial entity." It is all about the individuals perception. My bike has lots of soul.

 

I just bought an '07 about 3 weeks ago, and ordered a shop manual at the time of purchase. I put about 400 miles on the bike, and like it pretty well. The manual showed up about a week ago, and I immediately read about the maintenance procedures, including the valve adjustment (I like to personally maintain/repair all my vehicles). OK, here's the real "gothcha", from my perspective; you have to remove the camshafts and the VTEC lifters, install special little shims (made by Honda) to "engage" the VTEC lifters, reinstall the VTEC lifters and camshafts, and THEN measure the clearances. Even if all the clearances are OK, you still have to remove the camshafts and VTEC lifters again to remove the special shims, and then reinstall everything again. By the way, removing the camshafts requires making a special little sheetmetal tool to remove the cam chain tension.

So, a normal valve clearance check requires removing and installing the cams and lifters twice for each bank of cylinders. This is almost enough to make me sell the bike, but I do like it quite a bit. I'll have to take a long trip on it and see if I like it enough to offset this aggravation.

 

If you were planning on doing the Valve check every three weeks then ya sell the bike. But I am fairly sure that when the time comes it won't be a big deal. Plus just like anything else, once you've done it once, it just gets easier and easier. Also if you "like" to do your own maintenance then why would this be an issue? You have another 15600miles to go. Enjoy them.

 

You make a couple of good points. Perhaps I should rephrase my issue/concern: If one considers getting a VTEC model, be aware that a properly done valve adjustment is going to be more expensive than a non-VTEC model due to the amount of time it will take, unless you plan on doing it yourself. Then it will just take a lot longer compared to a "conventional" valvetrain.

I expect that the bike will continue to grow on me to the point that I won't whine about any maintenance issues. Like my other bikes, it will have things that I see as positives and negatives. It's always a matter of the good outweighing the bad... for me, anyway.

 

Funny thing for me, I try and set myself back where If I was a new Know nothing as far as what a VFR is, I'd like to think I'm pretty open minded. When I look at other bikes and do the ole kick tire thing the VFR of new doesn't really stand out like I'd hope, yea it's got some good things going for it, but the not so good things cancel them out to a neutral. Which brings me back to if I was going to buy a new bike today, what would I get? Good question huh? as there really isn't one bike. my VFR comes darn close, but man that Ducati Hypermotard is looking mighty nice, as well as a 1098. then there's the new 1000rr even the 600rr but as stated earlier, I'm not getting rid of My VFR.

 

definitely positive.The whole bike that is!! Not just the vtech part...I had both, the newer one is a nicer bike far as I'm concerned..My 05 definitely handled better, it was a bit more comfy, and it was NEW!! New is always nice!!

My current 00 on the other hand works just great, yes i do like the engine a bit better, ease of maintenance, its a hair quicker and much better on fuel..BUT it is getting old!!


I didnt find the vtech part a issue one way or the other..Just a waste of money and technology that doesnt do anything usefull. Thats the part that $%^% me off..it should have had some kind of advantage..it doesnt...oh well..
I found no real harm or advantage with it, just another gimmick. I didnt mind mine or find any problems with it either way. I would still take the newer bike, vtech and all.

If $ was no object of course I would have a 08!! but for the $$, the 00 right now is hard to beat..

that cbf1000 looks good to me right now, will check one out at the show in Jan..To me looks just like my vfr cept the engine..will see...anyone really hate their 07, I might just trade u even for my 00 to make u happy!!!

 

Yes, this is a known fact as far as valve adjustment goes. I imagine that engines will only get more complicated with time as it will get tougher and tougher for manufacturers to meet emissions standards.

Personally, I knew that it would cost a little more for the valve adjustment on the 6th Gen, but the way I look at it, if I can't afford an extra couple hundred of dollars for maintenance, then I have no business buying an $11K motorcycle.

 

Howdy!
I just want to put my word or two in here...
I had always owned a Honda, a couple of Shadows and a VTX1800.
I had never thought much of sport bikes, they just seemed to be heartless, plastic, and uncomfortable to sit on. Then......I rode one.
The first VFR I rode was a '97. I would have trouble describing the big ole smile that bike put on my face. After a round of horse trading I got a brand new '06.
My impressions of the '97 is that the motor is smoother than the '06, but in almost every other way the '06 out shines it. The '06 handles better, brakes more evenly, and seems to be a fuzz quicker.
The ergos are slightly different, I don't have a favorite in that department.
I like the linked brakes, except at low speeds, like those encountered on long gravel driveways.
That's my piece...
I wonder what Mr. Rat has to say on this subject? I am interested to hear.

Best Wishes-
Mac

 

what is the cost for a vtec valve adjustment has anyone had it done yet?

for all you guys that dont like vtec keep your older gens!! dont buy any thing new if in good shape they will more than likley hold there value better than any gen 6 or most new high tec bikes down the road. bikes are getting to high tec, its getting harder to be that backyard mechanic older simpler bikes with performance are going to be in demand. look what kawi has done traction control for the new zx ABS haters should have more than a few nasty comments about that. the new connie is extreamely high tec not only have they gone beyond vtec with VVT , you dont even need igniton key any more and it tells you your tire pressure IMO it gone beyond what a bike is all about. vtec is old news bin around for over 6 yrs old technology now.

 

When I think about it, it is not a matter of liking V-tec, it's a nifty thing for their cars. For me it's more a disappointment in the direction the VFR headed. Honda had it down pat with the RC45, even thou expensive at the time it was still way ahead of the competition. Honda obviously felt there was something needing to be change to reach the market they wanted to attract and headed down a different path from what it had been to reach said market. It's all right, just to bad from my thinking in what I want in a bike. I'll keep what I have, But damn be nice to see a kick ass V4 something a rather with all the latest in suspension, brakes and chassis show up.

 

I'm kinda curious... Why does it seem that most manufacturers are headed the way of tech and gadgets?

If the raw form of a MC is longed for then why buck the system. And everyone is doing it as well. It seems as though there's a competition in the works between manufacturers to see who can create the latest and greatest cool stuff.

We all enjoy gadgets on cars... Navigation, On Star, 6 Disc in dash, LCD screens everywhere and never mind all the comp processing to control the mechanical side of things.

But why not on bikes? Cause there more personal maybe?

Bottom line though, there selling. Look at the K1200S. It also has tire pressure monitoring, on board computer and electronic suspension control for goodness sake. :rapture: