V-tech- Over all positive or negative?

So, the analysis of this thread seems to indicate to me that fifth generation bikes are/should be going up in resale value.

Attention all 5th generation owners....especially '98/'99 owners...if you sell your bike (horrible thought) jack up the price by at least 30%.

The '98/'99 VFRs are going to be collectibles!!!

But...you can't have mine.

 

I have been blessed to own a 3rd gen and now a 4th gen. I have yet to ride a VTEC VFR so I'll wait to provide an opinion, but the magic 8 ball says that might happen in 08!?

However, all you 6th gen bitches are frontin! I am tired of all your whining!

Oh, wait that's the gear driven cams whining of all the previous gen's, my apologies.

BZ

 

I don't get it either... I have come to the understanding that the 6th gen has been speculated about so much that people are and will continue to be oblivious to the bike as a whole. Those of us who own it are the lucky ones because we actually know.

And... this whole VTEC transition thing... WHO has actually dumped their bike because the VTEC kicked in around a corner? Speak up.

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From Freddie's website:

"You haven't seen what an Interceptor can do until you see Freddie ripping around LVMS aboard this sport-tourer. The Interceptor is the perfect machine to spend long days in the saddle, whether on the street or the track, and several of our instructors use the bike on a daily basis for instruction purposes."

I guess he has death wish taking his VTEC on the track huh. Someone should call him up and warn him.

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Since were on page 3 I thought I would spice it up some. :wave:

 

New stuff is always better. Old stuff sucks, that's why they don't make it anymore. Ouch... :biggrin:

 

LOL, love this thread, who do I give rep points too? I've rode the 6th, woo hoo no big deal. It felt more up right, felt bigger, even thou it's only a couple pounds one way or the other. From the pilot seat position the windscreen is taller. I'm not to kean on how the tail section looks IMHO it's lost some soul and then some.(gear driven cams was a trade mark) Biggest thing to me is the looks of the instrument panel layout, all that LCD stuff belongs on a 747 dash. Love my simple to read dials anytime, and while on the subject of simple all the other do goodie stuff like linked brakes ABS FI etc, can also go by by, who needs it. Bikes are getting way over the top complicated IMO, and as far as ride went, Ha My 750 is just as comphy and rails like no other, and sounds way cooler, but then I've added some goodies too. Not bashing a 6th gen, it is what it is, and that is it's definitely not a VFR of the past. Honda thinking they needed to mess with a good thing? not priceless Still think there's room for 2 models, one sport, one touring.
As far as Freddie goes, he' gets the latest from Honda, so no surprise, would you turn down a new model bike? like it's been said a many times its 90% rider and 10% bike, he'd out ride us on a VF500. The dude just has skills.

 

Thanks guys. So what I've gleaned so far:

1) The 5th is sportier, the 6th is more touring
2) Fuel economy isn't particularly different
3) During the first few years of VTEC the 'jump' was reportedly quite sudden, but still perfectly usable
4) After 06 the transition has become a lot smoother
5) 5th owners think the 6th is namby pamby and over engineered :ballchain:
6) 6th owners think it's the dog's bollocks :roll:
7) The two camps rarely agree
8) Both camps long for a 7th Gen so they can unite in taking the piss out of that instead :tongue:
9) Ultimately, I have to make the choice myself
10) VFRs are the top, regardless of which one you choose. :wave:

Does that about cover it? :biggrin:

 

:smile:

But seriously does that mean the 98/99 5th is better in some way to the 00 or 01 5ths? And if so, how?

Or is it just cos that's what you own?

I'm looking at a '00 5th at the moment, 23K miles, around £2,000 ($US 4,000). Well serviced etc

Sound any good?

 

Yellow 00 version is the best 5th, but that's after a red 97 4th

 

LOL, You have gained a lot of knowledge and obviously did your homework in such a short amount of time, I can't really argue with any of your top 10 :biggrin:

Not to much of a difference, Over here in the States the 98 & 99's have a Choke "fast idle lever" and the 2000's & 2001's have catalytic converters and better mirrors, other than the 2000's being yellow there isn't to much of a difference.

:nod: :clap2: :yo: :thumb: :amen:

 

Someday I want to ride a 4th or 5th gen to see what it's like. We've had some mad nice weather here this week so I've been riding the hell out of my new '06. I'm so glad I bought it because it is proving to be so satisfying to ride/toss-around/rev-up/etc. I'm guessing that my bike inherited some of those traits from its ancestors. :smile:

 

Like all you guys have said. each to his own. We all have different taste and thats what makes the biking community so great. For me tho I love the look of the 6th Gen Vfr. The 5th gen may have been a great bike to ride but for me its not all about the performance. If it doesn't have the look I just can't ride it. Sorry guys but the earlier models (5th gen) just look so old and out dates. Hey I don't like the look of naked bikes but a lot of them sell don't they.

 

Moby, you've hit the nail on the head there. Think your summing up just about covers everything. You are so right about point 8 as well :biggrin:

Btw, you wanna buy my '02?

 

I ride a 06 vtec. The styling was what sold me on the bike. I haven't riden a previous generation VFR so I can't compare but I have owned other sportbikes, all in-line 4's.
The vtec does nothing for me, neither good or bad, I can take it or leave it. If you ride aggressive and don't want the "surge", simply keep the bike above 6400 rpm. The surge has never really bother me except for the first time I hit it and thought something had went very wrong with my brand new bike.
I personally don't like over-complicated engines but I love this bike and I can't think of anything I would rather ride.

 

Yup. Now never, ever ask again!

Since you're in England, I'd suggest checking the exhaust on any pre-cat exhaust system (86-99). They tend to rot out in your rainy climate. The post-cat systems are stainless steel and should hold up much better.

 

tl;dr, but my 2 cents on the VFR VTEC is if it actually WERE the same system as the more advanced car VTEC iterations (perhaps coupled with the pneumatic valvetrain tech) then it would be highly desirable; as it is, it's simply choking the engine below 6400RPM.
Now, with real multiple camshaft profiles like in the genuine VTEC systems, you could have hooligan torque and screaming top end in a way Yamaha's YCC-I can only dream of delivering.
Disclaimer: Have never rode a 6th gen VFR and probabaly never will. YMMV.

 

I like Vtec cause the ladies like it and I like the ladies. Plus, it makes my hair grow faster and I appear at least 3 inches taller when standing beside it. Furthermore, it bugs the hell out of my father since I can be riding along beside him (harley heritage softtail) and one second the bike is quiet and nice and the next second the bike is screaming and I am in another county.

I fully plan on writing more responses to this thread equally as meaningless as the my first.

It all comes down to what you are into, im an engineer, vtec sounds neato, these things are pricey toys anyway. I think more controversial should be non-cancelling blinkers! What is tha deeeaaaaal with that!

 

Ok (uh oh here comes the A-Hole )

M/C are performance vehicles (even cruisers) as to why they cost so much vs cars.

I've owned (all gens) & raced VFR's Did my share of touring, & canyon zipping on them & still to this day have never had any more fun touring/racing/canyon running than the '86 VR500/750/1000's I have & had.

But when it comes to that useless POS Vtec system that was really a "TECH" mod for people to think it made things better to increase the cost of the bike only (to increase Fuel milage my ass, the tech on other like bikes still got as good or better w/o it, & besides - the best fuel consumption is throttle control:wink: ).

So what do I ride now, well I ride the bike Honda should of went back to there roots to build (but of course the Honda would be a V-4) with a bike that has 1 less cylinder, 4 less valves, 250 more cc's, 20 plus more HP, handles slightly better, non-linked ABS brakes, as good or better gas mileage (most often better & didn't need Vtec to do that), Triumph Sprint ST 1050.

Do I ride my VFR still I gave my daughter-Sure, do I ride my other VFR's-Sure,
Would I buy another VFR-sure would, if they make the bike the way it should be made !

Mr. Honda himself is turning in his grave with the direction of his bikes being produced :frown: