How many of you would buy a VFR 1000

I could diffently live with a revamped 800, they have the technology now and could easily bump it up 20 hp with a little more torque, I was just reading the stock 848 from Ducati is putting out 134 HP :hungry:



http://www.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/ducati-848.htm

 

I'm for all of this other than the single sided exhaust, I'm a fan of the underseat dual exhaust. And I am a fan of my ABS on my 2005 so I would keep ABS but have the ability to turn it off like some of the other bikes out there with that feature.

 

a 2007 and it was mainly the seat. I know that can be fixed but even then it didn't have the pull the Futura did.

 

yes yes yes more power ha ha ha ha!! as long as the ride is still comfortable ill take one all day long

 

MAYBE, ......if i could get a written guarantee of free replacement voltage regulators for life!

 

You're absolutely correct and it would not be hard for Honda to get a nother 20-30hp out of the current 800cc motor. In order to do this though Honda would have to increase compression and do some tuning, possibly upgrade the Vtec system to operate off of throttle position vice rpm. Could be done if every one was willing to purchase higher octane fuel.

 

Ha, even Hondas aren't immune to this.

 

Interesting thread, and I've thought about this a lot as I wonder what I would do if I had to replace my VFR.

Here's my two cents:

900cc V-4 engine w/ gear-driven cams

Real-world 5th Gen ergos and riding position

40-50 lbs lighter than 5th gen model

Adjustable suspension w/o HMAS

Radial, unlinked brakes

Single-sided swingarm with center stand

Hard points for attaching luggage.

Steel tank for use with magnetic tank bag.

 

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maybe without the steel tank

 

Reason I mentioned the steel tank is that being able to mount a magnetic tank bag is very, very convenient. I'm struggling with finding a solution for my 600RR, and having to use a strap-based tank bag is a real hassle.

 

Two VFR models are needed. A 1000cc "Touring/Sport" bike with real world ergos.

* Of course...gear-driven cams, no VTEC, and rewired R/Rs.
Oh, and looks like a '98/99 VFR and has super torque at low RPM. HP around 150 would be nice.

Second model...800cc "Sport" bike with rickey-racer ergos and light weight.
HP at least 130 and maybe a 7 speed tranny. Gear-driven cams a must.

My 3 cents...(inflation)

 

I wonder if Honda has seen this thread Hey! Honda! you listening or in this case reading...

 

Please don't take this the wrong way but I kinda hope their not. It seems as though most wishes are to delete the Gen 6 and create a tweaked and updated Gen 5. I love the VTEC, LBS, ABS and especially the lack of "gear" noise. The sound of combustion is music to my ears.

Honestly I just can't get enough of the Gen 6 with all that is has. Would be great if the cans were lighter but really love the look. Would be nice if the VTEC was refined but love the dual personality. I know the weight is an issue but honestly when I look around its seems that it was worth it. The styling, holy cow... I don't know what it is but I held off getting a Gen 5 for years. When I saw the Gen 6 it was an immediate attraction. Then the battle with the wife began (whole other thread)... I love it so much that I am finding a great deal of difficulty coping with the notion that so many don't.

I would like to see a better Gen 6, Refined VTEC, ABS on/off, +30hp and a stronger electrical system (for accessories).

I have the utmost respect for all you purists, hopefully I haven't ruffled any feathers, but I really do like it. Am I :crazy:

 

LOL there is definitely two types of VFR folks it seems, na it's time for a major redo, the 6th has been the longest running model. Yep bout time they give it the ole heave ho.
And Reg, Funny you say that bout the rear of the 4th, as that's what I think of the rear of the 5th I'm with you 100% on the head light thingy thing going on, not bad, but theres something not quite right, would have been sweet to have seen the 929 headlight package in place. In fact I'm not so over the top cool with mine nether, with all the new cool headlight lenses out there, its the one weak spot on my machine IMO look wise, but oh so goes it, still a huge bang for the buck.

 

You know, guys, I've not really been a huge fan of Gen 4, 5 or 6 styling, per se. Last really good looking VFR was Gen 3, in my book. But the bottom line is that that they all are such good motorcycles, I simply don't care. I had a '97 Integra and wasn't crazy about the styling of that either, but it was a great car. My least favorite styling VFR was gen 4 (no offense intended, 4th gen owners! :wink

At least none of them look like the original Ducati ST2 or ST4. Blech.

My two CBRs are the best looking bikes I've ever owned, but I don't know if they are going to be the best overall bikes I've ever owned. I think my newly acquired VFR will take that honor, though my '94 CBR600F2 was a very, very, very good motorcycle.

 

My thoughts concerning a liter V4. (having owned one since 1987)

Why bother.

We've seen the 600cc class of bike go in HP form this time from roughly 86hp to around 100hp Yet in the 750cc class, HP has stayed at a comfortable 106. when Honda did the displacement bump from (748) in the 750 class to (781) in the 800, we expected to see a HP bump yet the VFR is still only roughly 106 HP. Whats the deal, Honda, you can systemically increase power in a 600 but not in an 800?

What I would like to see is the same HP bump, that honda miraculously pulled out of the hat for the 600CC class applied to the 800 which should get us at least an additional 20-30 Ponies in this class putting the VFR in the 126-136 HP range.

This puts the 750 class bike in the same HP range as my 86 VF1000R was and without all the weight and lack of nimbleness.

We know this is eminently do-able since Honda had pulled this same performance increases off across its entire CBR line. Don't believe me look at a 88 CBR 1000 (Can you say pregnant Yak.)

The problem with going to a liter can simply be summed up easily in that the engine is going to be larger. If you look at the VFR engine 870 CC is the maximum displacement you can go to in the current engine without getting dangerously thin on the cylinder wall thickness.

A Liter would require a larger engine, and this would translate into a wider bike which will impact the overall nimbleness of the bikes potential.

I would love to see honda dow the following:

1. Give it the HP bump like they did for the CBR lines.
2. take it to a true/real 800 (798cc)

I would suspect this would give us close to 140 hp, in the same dimensional package. and who here wouldn't be happy with that.

 

i'd like to see honda build a v4 or v5 1300 or 1400 sport/tourer.something with ergos' like my '02 and simmilar or less wieght.i like the kawi 14 but it is way too big and heavy for my taste....i like the 'busa but its ergo's are a bit harsh and no available factory hardbags.i think there's a nice niche for honda between these two bikes.throw in the unique and versatile v4 or v5 powerplant along with top-shelf components,and honda could have a winner.....wishfull thinking,though.seems like honda doesn't want to be on the cutting edge any more.