How many of you would buy a VFR 1000

Discussion in 'General VFR Discussions' started by R.W., Aug 19, 2006.

  1. DAN-SLO

    DAN-SLO New Member

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    That makes two of us.
    1000cc count me in:rolleyes:
     


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    Id like the VFR if it had another 15 or 20.... or 30 horses. That MUST be feasible, I mean, it is 800cc's and so many 600's today are making 130 HP or better. I want to be able to power wheelie in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. All with the same sound and flickability. I say, put the Viffer on a diet, juice up that motor (perhaps to 1000cc) and do it before I am too old to ride the damn thing!
     


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    If Honda would make one with the power and weight of my cbr 929 but with the comfort level of the vfr I'd buy two. One for now and one for when I wear the first one out. I've been looking at the Triumph st 1050 and when it comes time for a new bike, I might buy one if Honda doesn't update the vfr.
     


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    i damn near bought a vfr1000..i found a few pics online (very hard to find!!) and thought, that is a STUNNER of a bike for being 20 years old (and i'm only just older than it), there was a guy who had one online for ages, no interest, price dropped dramatically and i was like, shit yeh, i'll have it. organised to go see it, and a couple days before, it sold to someone else..gutted!! but i just got myself an NC30 and to be honest, i prefer something i can biff into corners with fair abandon!
    single sided swingarm would be trick..easy to remedy. gear driven cams..well, with proper care, the vfr1000 (note: not vf1000 *shudders*) were notoriously long-lasting engines.
    to be totally honest, i'm a bit of a poser when it comes to bikes..and something that mentally huge and heavy and gorgeous would keep me happy for a long time!
    keeping my eyes peeled for another one for sure.
     


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    also..to go along with everyone wanting a V5 engine (i'm doing engine mechanics), the cost of producing such an engine would probably be another nr500/750 fiasco for dear old honda..i would kill for a 1000cc V4 super light bike, single sided swingarm or not..but i doubt (even after the awesome history of it) there will be too much more progress in the v4 faction..and yes, it makes me cry inside!!
     


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    I just wish that Honda would get off its lazy a$$ and build the VFR to be more sport than touring.. Yes go ahead and build a 1000cc V4 with gear driven cams /NO VTEC/ 125-150 hp/ suspension upgrade and better wiring system..

    For the Vtec lovers build a touring model 1000 V4 with side bags /heated grips/ cup holder/ adjustable windscreen/ and lower the vtec operation point to 6000 rpm.

    I bought my 99 VFR because it was more of a sport bike than touring and because the reliability of the gear driven cams and the "almost" bulletproof V4 engine design which has proven itself to last for many hard miles on the track and on the road..

    Honda , if they build a 1000 V4 VFR it must have the quality of past generations and the urge to eat that GSXR up and spit it out ..
     


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    From what I've read they are going to do away with the VTEC in the 2009 vfr1000... If they do that I would be in. In my mind it's a pain in the ***. But then again I've never driven a 2005+ vtec or a non vtec gear driven cams so I prolly don't know what I'm talking about.
     


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    The difficulty is the question - would you BUY one ? I suspect most of the respondents that said YES actually wouldn't, the biggest drawback being price. There are simply lots of alternatives in the used market that do everything the VFR does and more with the exception of the sound of the engine.

    Having ridden all generations of VFR, I have to agree with others who have noted the lighter/smaller versions were more fun. Certainly this has not been the market niche Honda wants to pursue with the VFR in recent years.

    Any return to gear-driven cams in a liter size V4 will mean moving them back into the centre of the motor where they are quieter. And I suspect Honda would retain the VTEC system as it is reflects their corporate philosophy of engine management, although it strangely hasn't shown up in any of their other motorcycles yet.

    I see a fairly obvious division within the ranks of the Vifferasti - one group that wants more sport - one that wants more touring. Maybe there is an opportunity here for Honda to produce a smaller/lighter 800 without VTEC and a larger/more powerful 1000 as stablemates.
     


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  10. Taz

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    Agreed, - BUT !

    here's Honda's problem, they already have a big bore ST with the ST1300.
    If they built a ST VFR 1000 or 1100 it would be in direct competition with the slightly bigger ST.
    By dropping the in line CBR1000R Fireblade for the for a VF1000RR V-4 has it's advantages like for one being narrower, lighter, & with the more expensive Duc, & Aprilia V-4's coming out gives the the average Joe, would be, & competitive Club racer a viable cheaper, competitive racer.

    Face it, V-4 or the V-5 is a exotic sounding, high potential motor & we love them, minis the stupid V-tec system that just doesn't belong on a Sport/Race bike.
    I can see the ST1300 or the Gold Wing having the V-tec though!
     


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    I "settled" for the 800!

    I've been on Litre bikes for years and the appeal of the 800 with out any 1000 in site convinced me to go ahead and settle; (not that the 8's not a great bike, but I miss the power)

    I WOULD BUY 1!
     


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    I bet a V5 would sound freakin awesome... however that strays a bit from the VFR's traditional heritage. So I'd be more apt to keep it a V4.

    I like my VFR's touring-like features and it is the reason why I bought it instead of a new CBR. I like the VTEC system because it makes the engine more relaxed and perhaps produce a bit more torque/response down low.

    I don't really like the sound of gear driven cams, but I suppose I wouldn't be turned off if the next VFR featured them. I really prefer the pure mechanical roar from the engine, which is also why I don't like really loud exhausts.
     


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    All they need to do is put a 1000cc V4 motor in the current chassis and it would be fine.That's pretty much what they did with the cbr rr and R1/R6 bikes. I don't really mind the way things are though. My 2000 vfr has everything I need.
     


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    It's pretty but it looks just like the CBR RR 1000. If I wanted to sit on 2x4 that's what i would have bought to begin with.
     


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    I am coming from an Aprilia Futura and that was a great bike but parts? Rode a Triumph ST and that was unbelievably uncomfortable. A 1K V4? Yeah baby!
     


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    want a sporty 1k V4 bike? Ducati has just the thing for you, although they are calling theirs an L4. Although it is quite expensive, all of your services are covered for the first 3 years, so that will save you some cash. Yeup their new 4 is quite a peach, significantly less weight than the VFR, and about twice the horse power. No optional hard bags, but who cares.

    All for just about $70,000!
     


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    NOW YOUR TALKIN' !! :biggrin:

    MD
     


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    OK I 'll chime in!

    I think Rat nailed it, most of us don't use all the avaliable power our bikes have anyway when on the street and the VFR is a hell of a "street bike".

    I agree with many that a better suspention would be nice and I would take that over weight loss or HP anyday. I guess I look at things in a practical sence. Why purchase something I won't use?

    When I sold the 93 VFR and started bike shopping many people asked why not a bigger bike in CC's. I asked why do I need it? Never received a good answer! Mostly dumb shit like Pop Wheelies and Go Faster? Anyway I got another 750 for a reason...I haven't mastered the 750 yet and I wanted a 4th gen too!

    So what would I like to see? Many of you touched on it, a couple versions of the VFR.

    I got a better idea! A whole family of VFR's! Just like Suzuki does with the GSXR and Kawasaki with the Ninja!

    A VFR 350 r 400 as the intro bike, but track junkies would love it too!

    Maybe a 500 or 600

    Keep the "Classic" 800 or 750 displacement

    Then lastly the firebreathing concept above in 1000cc's! And make a tuned down touring version of the above 1000 cc machine.

    Everybody's happy and staying in the V4 family!

    The only reason I'd love to see a VFR 1000 is because someday, God Willing, my skill level will reach a point that the VFR will not assit in my learning...and that's when the liter bike shows up! It would be nice to have one waiting.

    BZ
     


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    I seem to remember hearing somewhere that Moto GP was considering moving displacement down to 800cc.
    I love my Intercepter, just give it a little more punch. You don't really need to make it 1000cc, just put the technology in the 800 to make it a little stronger.
     


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  20. Taz

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    What year ST ?

    Because your the 1st of hundreds that have tried one (including the magazine write ups) that said it was uncomfortable :eek:
    I bought the ABS '06 model because It had everything the VFR did (except the V-4, & a un motorcycling feel of linked brakes, but the triple sounds just as good) plus bigger CC's & HP as well as the '07/'08 is even more comfortable.
    I own VFR's & the Sprint & I got the Sprint because it had what I was tired of waiting from Honda to do what they should of produced :mad: .

    If Honda finally upgrades her, I'll get one, tell then Not a chance.

    look @ my comparison of the 2 @ the beginning of this thread.
     


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