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    I was taking a look around for possible slide pegs, but most seem to be made for the facelift after mine and some are absurdly expensive.
    Was wondering if anyone here had a preferred brand? Or if anyone's tried mounting the facelift ones on an older bike? I think I'd need to drill a hole to mount it, but it's the same frame, so they should be backwards compatible otherwise. My fairings are already pretty banged up so I'm not worried about drilling and cutting a bit.

    I've got a 92 VFR.
     


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    What are slide pegs and what do you mean by facelift?
     


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    My 2-cents on frame sliders.
    My son installed them on his green machine 2008 Kaw Ninja 250. The sliders utilized a long threaded rod (like all thread) that went through both sliders, the two front frame down tubes and the front engine mount. All seemed well until he overcooked a canyon corner (with some gravel) and low sided on the left side of the bike. He came home unscathed but the bike was scratched up on the left (better than if it were the muffler side : ) ). I ordered a new left side panel and shifter lever, but when I removed the damaged one I found that yes, the frame slider took most of the hit, but it also was bent back and took the frame engine mounting lug with it. The front left down tube was twisted a little too. The 250 Ninja's are admittedly light duty bikes but that is unacceptable for a "protective" accessory on a motorcycle.

    So yeah frame sliders :/ They don't eliminate having to replace expensive bodywork....AND....they can transfer the initial main heavy hit to the pavement directly to your main frame. I would rather let the exterior ABS panels and mounts crumple to absorb the impact and protect my main frame, since I'm going to have to replace them anyway after a fall :/

    So you will have to decide whether a frame slider will achieve much at all in a fall and what other possible damage they could do to your bike in the process. I am sure this varies from bike to bike and where and how the slider mounts to the bike.
     
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    If I were the bike, I too would be scared. :p
     


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    No one makes VFR frame sliders. I've looked at the fairings and how the brackets would have to be fabricated, and decided that there is no good place to mount sliders that would do a reasonable job of protecting the fairings and the frame at the same time.
    I had a Daytona 675 track bike that was just fine after a lowside due to the frame sliders, as they were GB racing made and well designed.
     


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    These are R&G sliders on my '98 Gen5. They probably do more good preventing damage in a garage drop than a high speed slide. I have the frame and handlebar units.
     


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    Put holes in fairing to protect fiaring from damage? Ah....yea, no.
     


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    If they were originals, I'd agree. These are Chinese fairings installed by PO, so for me, no sweat. Of course, TETO.
     


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    Oh yea. I'm not picking on you. Just making a hopefully funny point to the larger group.
     


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    DSG make excellent ones for the 8th
     


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    While I have not witness it, I've heard about frame sliders catching while on a low slide and flipped the bike over and did much more damage than without them.
     


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    On these "sliders" that are fairly long to go from a frame/engine mount and out past the bodywork, the only thing I've seen them do is ruin the frame (and engine cases) on any thing more than a garage tip-over.

    On a naked bike they could be short enough to actually "slide" and protect vital bits. Like no longer than a skateboard wheel.
     


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    Speaking from personal experience...ahem, not on the VFR, my rond sliders that stick out have done a superb job, but always at the track where you go from smooth pavement to flatish grass. No drama. Even tried this (on the track) on one of my street bikes many years ago when someone ran me into the grass.
     


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    And that (potentially terminal) damage is precisely why I have consistently purchased and fitted R&G crash protection sliders/ bobbins and bar end protection to all my motorbikes - and as Randy knows I have certainly tested they work ... (PS Randy I have a tip over to add whilst out with Ribrickulous recently - but thanks to R&G no discernible damage).

    Unlike the typical cheap nylon puck solutions offered on TheBay etc, R&G do not use simple threaded steel bar which is often too strong and tends to pass energy into and then bends the frame.

    Instead R&G sliders use a specially developed ductile steel rod and specially developed adsorbing plastic bobbins on the sliders which means that rather than damaging the frame, the bolt will bend and absorb most if not all of the stress when a bike goes sliding down the road. (see video below) Meantime the plastic used for the bobbin is specifically formulated to abrade and progressively slow the bike rather than typical nylon bobbins which can dig in to the ground and suddenly apply load to the bike frame.

    Warning the R&G kit is NOT cheap but there is a reason why they are the first choice for so many track riders - they can save you serious damage/cost if your bike gets away from you or simply passes the point of no return whilst moving the bike.

    Just have a look at this video. As they say you get what you pay for...

    Have a look at 11.20 in this video...



    or skip to the conclusion on here 4:38 here...

     


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