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Engine failing after some pull

Discussion in '3rd & 4th Generation 1990-1997' started by Jonasbeavis, Sep 3, 2023.

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    Hi guys , today i went for spin , everthing alright , but after hitting 190/200 km/h the engine stop pulling and sounds like working on 3 cylinders . Stoped the bike , turn off the engine , checked for something wrong but didnt see anything wrong.
    Fired the engine again and was running fine.
    This happen once in the past in the same circumstances.
    I know that Stator and rectifiers blade conectors are a little rusty , and i hear a ticking sound from the rear cylinders , like sparks.

    Im sure the coils , spark wires are old stock, can be this?

    Can someone give some hints on this ?
     
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    T Snap-On.jpg fox.jpg he plugs for the stator (three yellow) and your rectifier (three yellow - red/black) going into the battery on the right side of the bike have connectors, I eliminated these and hard soldered them. I use clear shrink tubing from the aviation shop I work at, kinda cool as you can see the solder joint. I use the butt connectors along with a crimp and solder. Good idea to upgrade to a Mosfet regulator. There are tons of articles out there. Keep up the good work and enjoy the journey.
     


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    Thx for the reply . Already replaced the stock Rectifier with a upgraded Yamaha R1 .

    I really need to check all connectors from the bike , special the ones that are ignition/ coil related.
     


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    try switching plugs around or replace the one in the cylinder youve concluded has quit firing. it might be helpful to test pickup coil resistance [at the plug] when engine quits.
     


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    I have fired the engine and all runs fine. But almost certain that if I pull hard again it will happen again..

    I really need to dip all connectors in white vinager+salt to clean all those oxydized copper and solder them. Also measure coils and wires.
     


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    are we betting this an electrical, not mechanical or fuel-related problem ?
     


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    It seems that way.

    Today I removed the tank and this was what I discovered:

    - Spark plugs torqued by hand ( almost loose)
    - green plug not plugged correctly ( near fuel pump)
    - Missing band on carb insulator/boot
    - Alternator conector is very rusty .
    - Cylinder 1/3 plugs wet and dirty .
     
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    carry on :thumbs: we expect youll have your problem sorted by next week, so get busy.

    possibly a problem with one of the pickup coils if two plugs loose spark.
     
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    Well I decided to go full throttle and do everything at once .

    Fairings out to paint shop.
    Hangers and other metal parts going to powder coating.
    Wheels will go out tomorrow to be powder coating also.
     


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    Today I have tested all Coils , and seems they all are good ann into the stock values ( Honda manual) .
    Also tested outside making ground with the spark plugs tip , and I have spark.

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