Power commander???

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  1. Matija

    Matija New Member

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    I have on my VFR a air filter and titanium exhaust, and now i'm interesting about Power commander.
    I want buy it, but first I want know is anyone here who have it on his VFR 2000 year? Which are his good side, and is anything what is bad side of PC?
     


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    Matija; Yes I have a USB PC3 power commander on my bike. Mine is a 2000
    VFR so it sounds like we have a good start on similarity of machines. My bike has a K&N air filter, a D&D slip on muffler and also I removed the grid material from my cat. converter. I am pleased with the results of the Powercommander.I just run the stock program, but soon I hope to get it dyno tuned. good luck . eddie
     


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    Matija I am thinking same way!
    Did you get good price somewhere in neighborhood?If you do,please name the store and price,THX
     


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    I'm interesed does he spent more fuel with PC?
    And does model for america market had catalisator with 2 lambda sonds?
     


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    @ Dan SLO:

    Mislim da moj i tvoj motor nemaj isti "fuel injection"
    da li ti imas katalizator? zato jer ako ga imas, trebaju ti varalice za lambda sonde? a to ti povisuje cijenu PC-a.
    On ti kosta cca 300€.
    Ja imam prijatelja u HR koji se bavi trkacim motorima, inace dosta suraduje sa slovencima i on mi je rekao da mi ga on moze nabaviti i instalirati.
     


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    FI je isti za sve modele od 98 do 01 jedina razlika je u O2 eliminatoru,moj model jih ne treba,od 00 dalje su potrebni.Na e-bayu mozes ga naci za oko 200-250€.
    Ako su moje info.potpune mozes stavit bilo koji PC3(hardvare je isti za sve)koji ima konektore za Hondu samo ti treba prava mapa.
     


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    ne, nije ti isti FI za '98 i 2000, jer ni filter zraka nije isti.
    probaj pogledati po internetu, na modelu iz 2000. je FI kao sa XX-a, nema cok, a tvoj ima cok. a cim ima lambda sonde znaci da mu kompjuter ima funkciju vise nego onaj koji nema.
    koliko sam ja saznao, nisu isti, ali probaj malo jos sam pogledati na internetu, mozda sam u krivu.
    ali moguce je da PC odgovara na sve honde, bez obzira na te razlike.
     


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    I've had my morning coffee, but I still can't keep up with the conversation...

    :tongue:
     


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    :biggrin:

    that is croatian my friend...

    dan is from slovenia and we have similar languages, we talked about differenties betwen VFR 99 i 2000.


    btw, I always want buy a XX. Now i have VFR and I have doubt, buy XX or leave VFR.
    If you could tell me please, which are differenties betwen it, and which is better for you.
     


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    Next time we will translate,or you should try with stronger coffee.:smokin:
    I am still wondering what SLO stand for in your nick
    (slo is international sign for Slovenia)
     


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    Howdy my Eastern European VFR brothers; Anyway what is an XX?
    With my powercommander installed and a +3 rear sprocket I am getting about 43 miles per gallon, and that's not riding it like a grandmother either, It's just to late in the evening for my brain to convert it into kilometers per liter. Anyway, I think the biggest difference between the 1999 and 2000
    VFR is that the 2000 has a catalytic converter and does not have the fast idle lever. I am sure there are several other minor differences,but when they are side by side and both hauling ass down the road they are damm close. edddie c
     


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    lahko noč
    It was just a lot of eye-strain until I realized it was not english and that I was not losing my mind.

    Mati, the XX is an amazing super-bike. The choice depends on your type of riding. If you enjoy a lot of slow to medium speed roads with lots of twists and turns, then the VFR is definitely more fun. The XX is only slightly heavier then the VFR, but has a longer wheelbase. So tight-twisty roads take a little more work. The XX loves long open roads holds high-speed sweeping turns like it was on rails.

    I road the XX from California to New York and back this summer. It was the best choice for the trip for stability, comfort and power.


    Dan, SLO is the nickname the people up here on the central coast call the city of San Luis Obispo. Either pronounced slow or S-L-O.


    Eddie, the XX is the Honda CBR1100XX Super Blackbird. Basically it's the big brother to the VFR, but an inline 4. It was the bike to beat back in the late 90's. Not hugely popular in the US like the VFR, but a big following in Europe.
     


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    Here is more popular XX than VFR...


    I am really fan of XX and that bike was my big wish, but I just was afraid XX because I am small pearson. I had 60 kilograms :biggrin:
    and I was afraid that he will be to much for me.

    Can you just tell me one thin, how is with fuel, how much XX spent?
     


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    some diffrenties also are in ccm, I think that 99 had 781 ccm and 106 HP, but my had 782 ccm and110 HP.

    also is different clutch, mirrors, gauges, ECU and FI.
     


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    Power deliver is VERY smooth on the XX, but there is a lot of power available. I weigh 72 kilos and my short legs are fine since it sits a little lower then the VFR. With aftermarket exhaust, the XX weighs a little more then the VFR.

    Conservative highway driving will yield close to 300kilometers per tank. After a few beers, my metric conversions are rough... So I'll just say I see 33miles per gallon driving full out and a little over 40mpg commuting.
     


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    now I really don't know - sell VFR and buy XX or not .... :confused:
     


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    I have a friend that I ride with almost exclusively. I have a 98 VFR he has a 97 XX. I can keep up with him in turns, no problem. In fact I can overtake him in turns, if I have a bug up my ass. However, in a drag race, he has got me, hands down. The VFR is no match straight-line for the Blackbird. The VFR gets better gas mileage and is more comfortable. The decision is really in wether or not you care about the straight up and down speed or not. Personally, it was a toss up for me, the Blackbird is awesome. But IMO, nothing (and I really mean nothing) handles better than a VFR. The short wheelbase makes it one of the best bikes ever built, EVER. So, you can either scrape the pegs on a XX, or you can go through that turn without any drama on a VFR. I guess you can call the VFR a 'tweener. Best of both worlds. Handles similar to a 600, but much faster. The 1100 with NOS is a 'busa killer, hehe. I have personally seen it.
     


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    thanks on your opinon, it is help to me.
    and for me also is migt a litlle bit better VFR than XX... I just like it :wink:

    probably I will get something on top speed with power commander and rear sprocket and my problem will be solved...
     


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