New Bike feels awful! WTF?

The starter valve re-sync is an interesting read. And bit confusing for my pea brain. But doesn’t sound like rocket science either.

My bike is not the smoothest running of the stable so maybe there is a lot to be said for this re-sync.

Still wonder about the squeaky sound I hear though that I think is clutch oriented. Tomorrow will be another riding day weather wise so I’ll go out and pay more attention to what seems to be going on.

Thanks again for the thread link.

 

Starter valve sync helped my bike a lot, I thought she was running on 3 cylinders at times it was that bad, runs great now.

 

Did you do the work yourself?

 

Question on the sync: What about number 2? Is that one static, and if so, does number one get matched to that one first?

 

No I helped a buddy of mine who is a good mechanic to do it, just had to print out the updated info on the settings, think it's in that previous link, very simple to do took maybe 10 mins, bike runs so much better now.

see this link on vfrd
5th gen starter valves sync INCORRECT for last 22 years - Fifth Generation VFR's - VFRDiscussion

 

I saw the link. Looks like the hardest, provided you have the right gauges, is getting the air box out. Still wondering about number 2 though. YouTube will have something.

 

read the blinkin service manual

 

Yes read the manual. Download a copy.
You do not need to remove the airbox, but do remove the cover and check condition of your air filter while you're at it.
Yes set #2 same as #1.

 

Thanks.

 

raYazerman:

How in the heck did you do this without taking the base of the airbox off? I looked and could not figure it out, so, I've been working on removing that thing. Holy moly, a giant pain in the butt, as I expected. The manual tells you to disconnect stuff. But doesn't tell you how. The front vacuum hose was a real joy. Really wonder how I'll get that back on.

Finally got both sensor connectors underneath unplugged. I always struggle with these connectors, and I've broken a few on cars so I go slow to be careful. Squeeze and pull never works. I must a weakling! A little creative use of bent pick worked.

Anyway, I assume you left the tank on lifted up? I hope that works. I really don't want to pull it and then try to set up a quick fuel source. Don't have another pair of hands to help.

Hopefully I’m at the easy part. Of course now I have to figure how to use the gauges I bought.

 

There is no need to remove the airbox when doing a starter valve sync. But if you are trying to disconnect sensors, etc. then you do. There are two vacuum hoses on each side of the airbox, slipped onto posts that act as a storage spot and to plug the hoses. They are numbered 1 through 4. Simply disconnect, hook up your gauges device and adjust the starter valves from the right hand side. Not difficult at all. Yes, leave the tank propped up.
You seem to have needed to get under the airbox for the sensors... which I had no need to do as I had no FI light/codes telling me there was an issue with any of them.
The 4 hoses are identified on page 5-55 of the service manual and later. Scroll on down page by page until you get to 5-67. General hose routings in Section 1.

 

I know the hoses. Guess I should have read the sync part of the manual instead of lookin at videos. And stupid me for going through all of this. Well, I do want to clean things up and pull and lube cables, so all is not lost. Dirty in there. And good experience. Now to learn the gauge hookup. Hope they are workable.

No codes and I’m not pulling pair stuff off.

Thank you very much! This makes me happy actually.

 

Well, just in case anyone followed this thread, I thought I should do a follow up. The bike feels AWESOME now. I probably did way more than I needed but it just kinda creeps on on ya! I'm sure you can relate.

Here is the basic list of what I did:

For Ride & Handling:

New Tires - Road 5's
New front springs & valving done by a great race shop
New Eibach rear spring and Pensky shock
New Steering shaft, bearings, etc.
Set up for my weight

After the above, the bike felt great. A little stiff but I like it that way. Lays right down in the corners and feels pretty solid.

After the above, I went crazy at did all kinds of stuff from chain, sprockets, LED's, etc.

The other nice improvement was the Helibars (pain in the ass), and new levers, grips and weights. Also added a full Delkovic Exhaust. That was a giant pain in the ass. Sounds great though. Only issue with that was the fact that I didn't think through the exhaust sealant. Made a bit of a mess there. But hard to see.

Did the Roadster Cycle R/R upgrade. What a difference those parts are to stock. Little bit of grinding to get it to fit. But basically an easy install. And good 14.3 volts charging now.

After doing the Starter sync, I added a Dyno Jet and tune. Not a crazy one. Looks like just under 105 HP at the wheels which seems good to me.

I don't want to add up the cost. It's a ton I know. And I have a feeling I'll be doing a clutch soon. Hopefully, during the winter.

Anyway from WTF to . . . . I love this bike!! Unfortunately I had to have some minor surgery and I can't ride a few more weeks. Damn. So, since I have to sit around, I took the side fairings over to rid of the decals and re-paint. Those decals are a bitch.

Gary

 

Sounds like you did the perfect amount of shit.

This sure helps with factory decals.



https://www.amazon.com/Stripe-Wheel...ocphy=9033278&hvtargid=pla-451421021261&psc=1

 

Decals come easy with WD40

 

Well I kinda think so!!

 

I tried everything from heat, Goof Off, WD 40, and anything else I could think of. The glue was the issue. Finally just gave up. There were a bunch of marks on the side fairings anyway so I just figured a repaint was inevitable, so problem solved.

 

Hmmm... it wasn't a joke. Have you seen one in action? They are pretty cool. A friend removed super old graphics from a box truck. Didn't harm the paint.

 

Thanks Cap, Ill add it to the list in the toolbox if needed.

 

Gary, any chance you would be able to share your map? I am putting on a black widow exhaust and having trouble finding a good map to start with. The Delkevic is pretty similar so thought I'd at least start there...