Frame Sliders added to Wiki

I have added a Frame Slider section to the Wiki under "Body".

I am having trouble with the HPS kit. Their website appears to be dead.

If anyone has info on any other slider kits please advise... especially kits that DON"T require and mods.

 

http://www.motovationusa.com/
http://www.kneedraggers.com/list/5.9000
http://www.ridegear.com/rg/cat/Frame-Sliders.html
Maybe this will help you!
On the picture is lightech.

 

Hey Dan-Slo,

Where did you get those Lightech frame sliders, I can't find them on the web?

Thanks,
Mel

 

http://www.lightech.it/
here you go!

 

Kinda tough to read that website considering I don't know Italian. Oh, I see, there is an Eglish translator. Do you happen to know the part number for the ones that fit our VFR, I only see Gen 6 ones?

 

I must say I like the look of the HPS kit. Not having to modify the fairing or overflow bottle. Though, if I ever did lay the bike down, I'd rather have some fairing damage than a smashed radiator. But I guess if I was laying the bike down, that'd be the least of my worries. How thick is the bracket across the radiator?

 

Dan-Slo, how much were they, did you order direct, and how long did it take? Sorry for 20 questions, but very intriguing, finally one that doesn't require fairing modification. If I could get some more close up shots, I might be able to make some of those.

Thanks,
Vs

 

This is not my bike,so I can´t tell you the price but my guess is 30-60EUR Or try to contact via e mail they might be cooperative:wave:
Anyway this is not difficult to DIY,hope this photos will help!
Good luck!

 

Thanks for the pics. I'm going to see what I can do to try and make my own. Wish me luck.

VsVFR

 

Good luck!
You just need the right bolt(dimension)and plastic piece,rest is imagination!
I found a piece of Teflon in local store that would do the job-tube shape 60mm in diameter 100cm long.I recommend you Teflon it is more durable and strong than plastic.
Again good luck and do not forget report after mod.

 

Be VERY carful which sliders you get!!

In October 2006, I broke my right leg when my right foot slipped on gravel while I was standing still. I'm reasonably sure that the frame slider caused the fracture. Since then, I have had the sliders replaced.

With the sliders I have now, the left one requires a modified water bottle, which comes with the pair of sliders. They are farther forward than the sliders which I previously had and probably would not contact my leg if the bike were again dropped. Unfortunately, I cannot immediately find information to help you order them. However, they were made in England and, if I correctly recall, I used the Internet to order them from their dealer in Texas.

Another problem with the previous sliders is that after my brother got someone to help him lift the bike, he forgot that it was there and knocked it over with his SUV. That cracked an engine mount requiring that the engine be replaced. The design of the present sliders is such that they probably would not crack the engine block.

 

Just my 2 cents worth, I was intrested in frame sliders until I recently had the misfortune of seeing a bike fatality. A vehicle had pulled out of a side street and didn't see the bike approaching. The rider laid the bike down on the left side. The frame sliders did their job and reduced plastic damage but they also reduced drag, thus the bike had very little deceleration while on it's side. While on its side the bike probably only had 3" contact patch with the pavement and all of that was metal to pavement, not very much slowing effect. Would the bike had slowed down enough to have a diferent outcome if it didn't have the sliders? I don't know but the bike obviously hit at a greater velocity than it would if the sliders were not installed.

 

Just my $.02 - R&G sliders are the only way to go. I've done a metric #$%load of research and these are the best- IMO. I'm not really sure that frame sliders are meant for the catastrophic experience - they are made to protect the bodywork from an oh $%^& moment. RIP to the fella that had the experience that we wake up sweating about.

 

Frame slider is useful only for minor accidents-low speed so you can go home without towing(engine and radiators in one piece).If you crash with high speed there is no frame slider in this world that will help.

 

I think my point is being missed. The purpose of frame sliders are low speed crashes, but do they actually increase your chances for injury at highway speeds? I think its possible in this case.This wasn't a "high speed" crash (45-50 mph)the bike didn't slow a great deal in the 70 feet it skidded on its side due to most of the bike being elevated off the pavement by the sliders and it was skidding on a 1 1/2 inch piece of steel and the footpegs. If after that distance the bike only scrubs off 5-10 mph, your chances of walking away aren't that great. IMO, I don't really care if they save my plastic if I drop the bike at 5 mph if they increase my chances of not making through a crash at highway speeds. I realize that all crashes may not have the same effects of the sliders as this one, but seeing this turned me against them.

 

It's hard to argue with the physics of: less contact area on ground = reduction of friction and subsequent increased distance of travel until the bike grinds itself to a halt. These things were originally developed by racers to help in allowing a rider to continue racing (maximum points) following a low side crash, and or, slow speed get off. The kitty litter, or hopefully, air fence was created to add the friction to stop a race machine crashing at speed. I can see your point, but I have to admit that I'm jealous that you can afford to replace all of your plastic fairing bits if your bike was to get tipped over accidentally or at a slow speed - I cannot:frown: I would still use 'em, and that is only my opinion :crutch:

 

I dont really understand. I guess the rider stayed in a slide with the bike?

I know a lot of people who have misconceptions about sliders. As stated they are for low or no speed tip overs.

 

Agreed!
I crashed at low speed 500 km away from home and in 20 min I was again on bike.Imagine the problems I would have with broken radiator or damaged engine anyway slider in such circumstances is priceless:wink:
If you crash with high speed first thing on your mind should be GET AWAY from your bike so in that case slider gives you some extra space(bike goes away faster).

 

No, the rider and bike did seperate. Is it possible to stay with the bike when it is laid down? I've been fortunate and have never been down at highway speeds but I would think it would be very difficult to stay with the bike during a long skid, even if you wanted to. That's an intresting point, have any of you stayed with a bike during a lay over skid? Is it possible? If so is it common?
I know the frame sliders have a well designed use and I'm not trying to criticize those who have them or like them. I just wanted to share my experience in the interest of safety.

 

You have a good point, DAN-SLO, the frame sliders probably would give more distance between the rider and bike.