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Discussion in '7th Generation 2010-Present' started by Joshua Rideout, Jun 8, 2020.

  1. Joshua Rideout

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    Yikes - Joshua that is a really sad first post on this forum :Cry:

    Please can you confirm what year was your 7th Gen manufactured?

    I recall that there was iindeed a batch of early 2010 models affected by an issue with manufacturing swarf not being completely cleaned before engines were installed and shipped to customers. I had the impression that affected 2010 models had all been recalled and inspected, so I really hope your post is not indicative of the problem extends beyond the problematic initial batch.

    Obviously if you do have a 2010 model - then after 10 years it will be well outside any warranty and no amount of sympathy from your local dealership is going to result in them being willing to pick up the bill for a relacement engine.

    The only realistic chance you might have to get real help with this problem, is to get pen and paper out and craft a polite LETTER (do NOT email) and post it to the MD at Honda Japan. Nowadays "real post" is so rare in business that it does get read and does reach senior people who could decide to do whatever may be needed to protect their brand image. As for what you say, just explain what has happened add your photos, and if you are lucky Mr Honda may be willing to contribute towards the cost of getting your bike on the road again.

    Good luck and PLEASE let us know how you get on.


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    Getting trigger happy - must be time for McCallan

    Try this

    Takahiro Hachigo
    President - Honda Motor Co Ltd.
    Head Office
    2-1-1, Minami-Aoyama,
    Minato-ku,
    Tokyo 107-8556, Japan
     
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    Glad you found an engine.... 11k isn't even broken in yet.
     
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    A guy I work with pre-ordered and paid for a 2010 before they were released... he bought the first one sold in Canada. It was beautiful, he treated it like gold and he only had it serviced at Honda as he is a very particular person. Same problem as yours, 4 years and less than 10k km and the engine shredded. Honda took it in, took it apart, and with no recall declined to do anything for him.... he parted it out. Terrible shame, he lost a TON of money and he was a long-time VFR guy who is now a BMW guy.

    So this sucks but you are right that Honda unfortunately is not going to touch this.
     
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    That is very sad. I have a 2010 with only 1,200 miles on it. Kinda scared now !!


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    Wow, I understand there's going to be many more happy customers than disappointed ones out there, and I guess every bike forum will have stories like this. It's only when those of us researching these ones do we find stories like this. I'm looking at a 2010 now with 25000km on it, at a dealer who only wants $6k, does that sound right? Considering people who had engines changed 10 years ago, would a dealer be obligated to tell a buyer the bikes history? Trying to keep a warm fuzzy feeling about this one but it's getting harder the more I dig about them. It's DCT as well.

    How is yours doing?

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  8. skimad4x4

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    I am not sure what you are driving at here On2Wheels.

    In theory as soon as Honda identified the issue in this early production batch, dealers were instructed to inspect them thoroughly when next in for service and they were then either cleared or had the engine replaced, although potentially some were missed entirely.

    I guess main Honda dealers would have kept some record of what was done for any bikes sold or serviced by them. British bikes tend to have the selling dealers details shown in small letters at the bottom of the number plate - whether something similar happens in the States I have no idea - but if you can somehow identify the original dealer then a phone call might enable you to find out whether your potential purchase was checked, cleared, replaced, or missed.

    The VFR1200 is a fantastic bike with an awesome engine. Price was actually the main reason they did not sell, although magazines tended to grumble about the fuel tank capacity/range.

    Obviously 12 years on, price is much less of an issue, but if you really are looking for a "fuzzy feeling" when considering a potential purchase, then you are probably better off just looking for a 2012 onwards model which also has a marginally larger fuel tank and is not at risk of the engine problem which affected some of the 2010 batch.

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    Honda will have a spot on the frame or VIN plate to apply a punch mark or decal stating which recall(s) were done to it.
     
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    I sold mine rite after my post on here. To many engines have failed on the 2010 models. A flaw is a flaw no matter how many years have passed!


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    This Guy in South Korea (Dae) has a 2010 model with 200.000 km on the clock...124,274.238 miles.
    2 x valve adjustments
    2 x new spark plugs


    Dae:
    I reached 200,000KM yesterday, (2016)
    VFR has served me well. Changed cam chain tensioner & chain, started making slight rattle on start up. The chain did not stretch very much.


    I haven't had any charging issues and have volt meter installed, always shows 14.2-4 volts while the engine is on. Yes my shaft drive failed at 93,000Km back in July of 2013.

    "The cause of the final drive cracking/coming apart was the parking brake cable/abs sensor (DCT model only) which is housed inside the final drive unit and must have come loose over time. It somehow wrapped around the shaft drive unit and cracked the assembly"
    https://www.vfrdiscussion.com/index.php?/forums/topic/75671-failed-final-driveshaft/

    Had the recall done earlier this year and Honda has reimbursed me about $2,000 dollars for my troubles. As far as valve adjustments, done it twice, I just handed my keys to the mechanic and he said valves were done. I'm not technical enough to know, even if someone explained it to me. Both times when the valves were supposedly adjusted, I had the throttle body cleaned along with new spark plugs,
    yes the bike did run better after the service. Can't tell why the bike ran better because of valves or other service that was performed at the time.

    https://www.vfrdiscussion.com/index.php?/forums/topic/83674-200000km/ 5747849a25027_2K2.thumb.JPG.2976079538405d68ba6eb3bad539520d.JPG 5747849a25027_2K2.thumb.JPG.2976079538405d68ba6eb3bad539520d.JPG
     
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    December 2015.

    2010-2013 Honda VFR1200F Recalled for Driveshaft Issue.

    Honda first received a report of driveshaft failure in June 2012 for a VFR1200F in the U.K. By October 2013, Honda had received five more reports from Italy, Germany and the U.K. The following month, the universal joint supplier changed its production process in hopes of correcting the problem.

    In December 2014, Honda received its 12th reported failure and the first that resulted in the rear wheel locking up. Honda acquired this broken unit so it could conduct a more thorough investigation. More reports continued to come in, including four from the U.S. (one of which resulted in a rear wheel lock-up).
    On Nov. 27, 2015, Honda initiated the recall process.

    Honda dealers will replace the drive shaft on recalled units, with parts expected to arrive in U.S. locations in early 2016. Customers concerned about the problem and aren’t comfortable waiting for parts to come in may bring their VFR1200Fs in for inspection; if the driveshaft fails the inspection, dealers will install temporary countermeasure which will serve until the proper replacement parts are available.
    https://blog.motorcycle.com/2015/12...honda-vfr1200f-recalled-for-driveshaft-issue/
     
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