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Discussion in 'General VFR Discussions' started by midias, Oct 8, 2007.

  1. biker7

    biker7 New Member

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    I am not going to mind my own business anymore then you do by imposing your sense of correctness on me. Reliving the accident and learning from it is precisely the point. Can the OP help one of us learn from what he did the hard way? Otherwise...I have to ask...what is the point of the OP coming on the board and mentioning he crashed? Guys crash and die on motorcycles ever single day. As to your grade school references...per reg71's request, I won't sully this board by reciprocating in kind.
    Well...just one more...:biggrin: George Bush is a rocket scientist next to you...lol. OK...reg71...I'm out brother.
    Cheers,
    George
     


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  2. derstuka

    derstuka Lord of the Wankers Staff Member

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    I was actually gonna ask if he was your brother, since you both seem to know it all. Your bridge is calling, go crawl under it.

    I'm out too. Love back atcha Georgie!
     


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  3. FRE

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    Biker7,

    The guy went down and was hurt badly. What's the point of making posts that simply make him feel worse? Do you really think that you can teach him something that he hasn't already figured out for himself?

    We all make mistakes. There is no good reason to rub it in. I'm quite certain that you also have made mistakes that, combined with a bit of bad luck, would have resulted in a serious accident. We all have.
     


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  4. biker7

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    I think you and the previous poster want an apology. So here it is. I apologize to you and the original poster if I have violated your sensibility of what is appropriate to say to someone that has crashed. There are generally two types of motorcyclists. Those that have crashed and those that are going to. Most of us have lost a fair amount of friends to riding motorcycles.
    The OP broke his wrist. I am sorry for that and as I stated, I wish him to have a speedy recovery. The crux I believe of crashing is the notion of self determination. You may wonder what that is. The way I see it is and the point of asking the OP the questions I did is there is no point to enjoying the bountiful pleasure of riding a motorcyle if we feel at some point that our time of enjoying the sport is numbered...in other words at some point we will get badly hurt or die. I believe it would be denial for anybody that rides to say they haven't thought about this..perhaps a lot. You mentioned that the OP learned something from the crash. I was hoping the OP could not only learn something from the crash but also as a public service to his fellow riders tell us what he learned. Me for example...I slow down when cresting a hill or going through an intersection and I exhort all that ride to do the same thing.
    If writing this saves a single life at the risk of getting some scorn on here then I gratefully accept that. I don't want to see my fellow riders get hurt. What I see out on the roads today is almost too much and almost keeps me from riding. It is hugely dangerous. Unless we feel we can manage this risk through compensating for the horrendous driving of cagers our time is numbered before each of us go for perhaps a long visit to the hospital...or worse. Young riders feel the least vulnerable. Old riders like me know the risks and pick our spots to ride faster then we should and I still do and a big part of the allure of the sport.
    I believe that 30%...perhaps more...of all motorcycle accidents that occur today can be avoided by not changing a cager's mentality one bit. I don't see cager's becoming better drivers any time soon. I do believe however through very subtle changes in motorcylce riding technique a great many accidents can be avoided. What is almost too much to fathom is how a very slight change in motorcycle riding technique can have life and death consequences. This is why it is many times almost impossible to prove who was at fault when a motorcycle crash occurs. Many times it is the fault of both rider and cager. This very feathered edge is the difference.
    Ride safe.
    George
     
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