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  1. tbones86

    tbones86 New Member

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    Glad to hear to your on the the road to recovery, & if it makes you feel any better your bike now, though similar in looks to mine still looks better & I've ridden mine that way for 3 years( the reason I haven't posted any pic's of it, I feel guilty for not having her dolled up by now):wink: I also had a similar experience though in a cage one of my near death experiences. If I wouldn't have know both of idiots parked @ the bottom of the hill I would have been tempted to bouce their heads of their windsheilds though without the aid of the telephone pole I had.
     


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    Thanks for the replys guys. I am slowly getting back to work but I am getting tired very easily :( Hopefully I will rebuild this winter.
     


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    We can fix a broken bike in a few days, but not broken bones and scraped skin. I fractured my right foot last fall and it took a couple of months to get over it completely. I know how it is to want to be "Fixed" but it takes some time. Hang in there, things WILL get better over time.
     


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    I wear full face and armored jacket... usually jeans and a pair of Sh!t kickers.


    Pants and boots saved your legs... I have to say, I have the utmost respect for you wearing your gear.

    I am placing an order today.... Who gives a sh!t about money.
     


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    sorry to hear about the accident. i hope your surgery and recovery goes well.

    heal fast!
     


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  6. slowdownman

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    dang

    How fast were you going?

    get well soon
     


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  7. eddievalleytrailer

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    Don't worry about the bike. I had to replace the frame, forks and TONS of other parts on my poor 'ole ACE, after my dad's little mishap (is hitting a car head on a little mishap?). :eek:
     


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  8. biker7

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    I guess it was your fault. We all make mistakes. Next time maybe you will slow down up over a hill...perhaps not. :wink:
    George
     


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  9. midias

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    Thanks for the replys and for those who were not as nice you can munch on a bowl of my nuts.

    [​IMG]

    But I finally got the stitches out. Here is a sweet camera phone shot. I am finally getting better.
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  10. derstuka

    derstuka Lord of the Wankers Staff Member

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    How old you are??? I ask this because you are acting like a child. This comment is immature and uncalled for. The guy already is battered and bruised from the accident and just because he did not answer your question (which was worded to accept guilt it seems) doesn't me you should get all bent and act like a child. Have you ever thought that maybe he doesn't want to talk about everything detail of the accident?

    Next time just pass by the thread, or just don't click on it.
     


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  11. midias

    midias New Member

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    Thanks for that I was going to answer his question but was not a big fan of how he put things. Anyway here is where the plate is in general. I think I counted 8 screws

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  12. biker7

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    No next time I will ask the same question which will ellicit the same inane response from a dolt like yourself. I am likely 20 years older then you and have been riding motorcycles for 40 years. Accident avoidance is an important element of motorcycling and the question I posed is perhaps the most important question anybody can ask on a motorcycling forum.
    60% of motorcycle accidents are the fault of the operator and conservatively another 20% could be avoided with proper riding technique. Most have gone down that have ridden a long time. Since the OP came forward, I wanted to hear if he had any advice as a public service to others not to repeat what happened to him or if he gleaned any lessons from his crash. If you don't learn from each crash then you dismiss the notion that one has any dominion over one's fate when riding a motorcycle and accidents are a statistical lottery which they clearly aren't. I stated in the outset that I was sorry he had his accident and I wished him a speedy recovery.
    George
     


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    Since you've been riding for 40 years and are an expert on accident aviodance, you'll agree that accidents usually happen in a split second. I'm sure our injured friend knows exactly what happened, and will share the details when he's good and ready. I thought he gave a pretty good discription of the accident in the origional post. The way the cagers drive these days with radios blairing, cell phones glued to their ears and trying to choke down a Big Mac, it's a wonder any motorcyclist can make it home alive. :smash:
     


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  14. biker7

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    You implicitly asked the same question I did of the OP. Accidents happen in a split second. What is the split of that second? It is a function of motorycle speed relative to cager speed and resulting REACTION TIME. What is reaction time? It is the time to make a split second decision and respond. When a cager makes a response...perhaps the worst possible reaction that many of us almost expect today...the motorcycle rider adjusts accordingly. Speed changes everything. While I agree that cagers are the root cause of many accidents, motorcyclists are sadly an equal statistic when it comes to causing accidents. If many long time motorcyclists didn't know this...most of us wouldn't ride as there would be a hopeless sense of resignation that accidents were inevitable...why many abandon the sport. Speed is the root. There is nothing intrinsic about speed that matters other then cagers can't judge motorcycle speed by their size..small objects appear to move slower then large trucks when the converse is true...but the real reason is...to give cagers a larger reaction time to calculate motorcycle speed...especially with the inattention you mention with cell phones. I had a friend run over and killed last year by a young jacka$$ text messaging. The slower the motorcycle the longer the inept cager has to decide what to do. Also reaction time for the motorycle rider is big as well when a cager makes a bad decision. Cresting a hill even at the speed limit on a motorcycle not knowing what is over the hill is a big risk as the OP found out. The same is true of intersections...which part of lane you ride through and at what speed...can mean the difference between life and death...pretty big stakes.
    I will go out on a limb and say the OP crested the hill at a minimum the speed limit...likely faster...perhaps much faster. It is no coincidence that insurance costs on high power crotch rockets are much higher that of a $20K Harley even though replacement cost is less...same idiot cagers out there...but the dem's that ride each is a whole lot different.
    George
     


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    Also Recovering---

    Midias:
    Glad to see only a broken wrist. I layed my bike down at 80+ riding in a group of 6. Hit one of those "Tar Snakes" under heavy braking and the front end washed out. Walked away with road rash when the pavement burned thru my kevlar gloves. No broken bones, must have slid hundreds of feet. Without a helmet I too would have no chin left.

    My point is this: Always wear your gear. Helmet, armoured coat, gloves, boots. My mother was a R/N nurse and she gave me great advice when I starting riding street bikes. She said: "Remeber they can rebuild arms and legs, they can't rebuild your BRAIN!" WEAR A HELMET! I'll never forget that bit of wisdom. She knew that I loved riding, so she gave me the next best thing, her love and knowledge.
     


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  16. quickjohn

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    MAn all I can say is get well soon and get back on the bike when she's fixed. My motto is " It coulda been worse"
     


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  17. midias

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    OK here is what happened I was gong about 55 in a 55 zone. Then I cane over a hill on the other side there were a few car stopped waiting for the front to make a turn. I hit the brakes hard and wanted to go around but there was a car on the other side so when I knew I was going to hit the car in the back of the line I jumped off at about 30 MPH. The bike went down and I skidded around the road a bit. When I got up my wrist was horribly displaced and I called 911. I was very disappointed in the number of people who did not stop or care. I tried to practice what I had learned from my MSF classes and I decided jumping off was the best of rear ending a car with my face or a head on with a car. So there it is.
     


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  18. biker7

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    Thanks for your belated response. OK...the question still remains. Did you learn anything by your crash? Will you crest a hill again without slowing down below the speed limit...without knowing what is on the other side? Were you ticketed for rearending the last guy in the line? Some may construe what happened as your fault. You hit another car...not another car hit you.

    BTW...do you ride the "speed limit" through intersections? What side of the lane do you choose when you ride through and why?
    George
    P.S. You likely made the right choice by diving off the bike. I've done it. As to people not stopping. You may attribute that to people not caring. Some people are too afraid to help due to liability and also are simply too fearful to get involved...afraid of motorcycles in general and accidents in particular. Some may not care but I believe they are in the vast minority even though only a minority will stop to help.
     


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  19. derstuka

    derstuka Lord of the Wankers Staff Member

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    You clarify my point even more so by your responses. You are a know-it-all child and if you do not get your way you get upset. Awww....poor baby...I am sorry that he did not answer your question. Get over it and act like a grown up. The man was injured, no need to rub his face in it. He was not required to post anything at all. I am sure he is re-living the accident over and over in his head, and will learn from anything that he might need to do better.

    George Bush is older than me as well, so your point is? Go mind your own business MR KNOW IT ALL TROLL. Go back under your bridge.
     


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    Moderation powers: activate, form of schoolteacher, shape of Rodney King... Can't we all just get along. This thread is changing from a 'hope you get better' to let's take it all out on the guy who didn't realize he sounded callous. Or maybe he did, but that's not the point. Take it easy and try to keep it friendly. Please if you want to name call, keep it in jest.
     


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