Do you have to let it warm up?

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  1. bangelo

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    the opinions of most exerts is that you should not warm the motor before you ride, reasons are that the oil just does not work cold also condensation and gases take ther toll. the worst thing is the most wear happens when the motor is cold and not under load! it takes up to ten minutes after the gauge reaches temp before the metal and oil is fully warmed.

    I'm bangelo and this is my is 1st post -07 intercepter on its way,cant wait :dance:
     


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    The original v4 cam failure was more common on bikes that were left to warm up. Every vehicle I own gets driven off as soon as I can. Have always done this. No manufacturer says to warm it up, and I figure they know more about it than anyone else, afterall they designed it.
     


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    Bangelo: You joined in January and this is your first post? Well, congrats!

    I hope you are ready to ride....
     


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    Interesting...well, my method is to hold the tach at 11k until the gauge reads 160 degrees... Is this wrong? :confused:
     


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    Not for a VFR's V4 they're bullet proof. :smile:
     


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    Let it warm up a little then drive it. I would say at least a minute or two and you are golden.
     


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    That's because the computer retards and won't let the VTEC operate until the engine reaches 150 degrees.

    My V-max is very cold natured and runs rich anyway, so I let it run for a few. You can foul plugs though if it runs too long with no load. I like to let it at least come off fast idle before I go anywhere.
     


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    This sounds right to me, except, hold 11K until the temp shows about 210F. That should have it warmed up pretty good.:rolleyes:
     


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    Usually what I'll do is start the bike and let it idle, while I put on my helmet, gloves, and zip up the jacket. Then hop on and ride. I keep the revs below 4000, until the bike is warmed up, usually 150 degrees or more. I know this is probably pretty easy on the bike, but just the way I am.
     


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    Oh, thanks for the correction Eddie...I guess I wasn't warming it up correctly. I will now hold it at 11k until 210F. You guys are all so smart! Thanks!
     


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    IMO....this is an acceptable way (and the way I use most times, well, when I don't hold it at 11k until 210F). No need in getting on her :whip: while the metals are still cold. Good man!
     


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    Me too. I do just about the same thing. My '07 is pretty much ready to go after a minute or two. My old 83 likes just a little choke for a minute, then ready to ride quietly until the temp guage begins to move. Unless it's real cold, then hold at 11k until the guage reads about 210F.:pound:
     


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    I try do keep the idleing to a mininum on the '83. The 1st gens don't get very much oil to the topend @ idle. I give it full choke for less than a minute then have to back it off or it runs way too rich and tries to die. Once choke is off I'm able to ride right off with no sputtering at all. It has Yoshi pipes, K&N and is jetted for them so it may be a little different than a stock bike. It's not very cold natured at all. She likes it when I ride her cold.:whip:
     


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    Please let me get my 2 cents worth in. I believe that all internal combustion engines need to be warmed up . That is started and let it idle around 1500-2000 rpm until the temp gauge registers and the motor feels warm to the touch.Cold oil does not circulate or lubricate very well.Then the bike can be ridden conservatively until the motor gets up to temp. To the guy who runs full on choke for awhile, I think you are wearing out your pistons and rings prematurly, because full choke in 99% of the machines that I have been on
    really floods the engine with gasoline which washes the oil off the rings and wears out the cyls and contaminates the oil. eddie
     


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    I agree not to rev too high when cold (that 11K thing...joke:biggrin1: ). As far as choke goes, I think different bikes react differently to choke use. Some like more, others less. My '83 ceptor likes full choke only to start, then I have to back it off to prevent the flooding/washing/oil contaminating. On the other hand, my '03 ACE V-twin has to have 3/4 choke for about 5 minutes before it'll pull a greasy string. Listen to your bike, It'll tell you what it wants.
     


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  16. John O'Leary

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    I just laughed when i read the 'rev it until 11k', what a load of rubbish lol. If there's anything that will kill an engine long term its doing that to it everytime you start it up. Everyone i've ever known warm the bikes up first for a few minutes, it's simply to let the oil circulate round the engine. Without doing that, metal is wearing against metal, that's why the oil is in there in the first place fer cryin' out loud.
     


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    Go Go Go!!!!!!!!!!!

    No need to warm up. the VFR warms up so fast, even in winter, South African winter that is!

    Ride the blue demons out of the bike from the start, if it then gets warm there must be something wrong! Hehe

    No, on a lighter note: just take it easy for 2 - 4 minutes and go enjoy yourself.

    What about wheelies? before, after V-Tech kicks in or safe and not at all?
     


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    May we laugh?

    He He:brick:
     


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    Thanks Eddie:

    I thought I read that correctly that the problem with the 1st gens was in America, people just hopped on them and took off without letting them warm up and this caused the cam issues.

    I think the history is in the VFR book by Salvatore Clement. Hope I spelled his name right!

    BZ
     


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    As I understand the cam issue, the 1st gen doesn't get enough oil to the top end at idle. When sitting in heavy traffic, idleing, and the engine at the top of the allowable temp., the little oil that does make it's way to the cams is very hot and thin, causing them to wear both the lobes and journels. The cams were also made from a softer metal which makes the problem worse.
     


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