Help fund the VFR header

Superior in what way? Airflow, or quality of filtering? otstir:

 

mice eat pipercross makes more noise-not worth bothering with

 

Hmm, Lets hopes its not something of the norm here. I've heard a many good things with Penske, why I broke down and went the way I did, then add getting my hands on a Ohlins wasn't happening anytime soon. So Had Jamie order this Penske up, he actually recommend this one, so we'll see.

 

You sending it on to Daugherty to tweak and repair?

 

I'll assume you are referring to me. ^ Since I purchased this directly from Penske it needed to go back to them. Thing is with shocks, I find most fall under the category of race shock. Therefore no warranty. I call BS on that, as one, the dealer here in the PNW, KFG, says they would have fixed this no question at no cost had I bought it through them. But no. I went direct. SMH &^%! So off it went yesterday. Now comes the interesting part, after a couple of debating phone calls if they feel after a test it is a mechanical failure on their part they will cover it. It would be different to some degree had it say 10k miles of racing on it in 2-3 years, ok, that's different. The first off thought is an O ring in the adjustment needles. but won't know until they put it on a shock dyno. With only 3300 miles, no racing, you'd think their mind set would be, yea lets make this right. Again we'll see, hopefully they make good on this. But the first couple of conversations left a unsettling feeling.

On keeping this header related. I did do a quick check how the 2Bro header fitting is, wow, nice. No issues with that what so ever. Now back to cleaning and brake removal stuff.

On another part to this build. I'm still open to contributions via the Go fund me, or direct, which ever makes sense to you. It all helps big time. thanks.

 

Yeah, had my Penske on my FJ for over 10 years with no issues. Good shock, even if I did go with an Ohlins for the VFR. :tickled_pink:

 

On the Penske front, I heard back from em, sounds like they cover the costs as now they know what's up, things is, it's over a week out. SMH.

Ok well H, from that news, I'll take my time doing the other things planned on..

I worked the 2bro into place checking fitment. I find even though the center is to work, one needs to stretch and pull the header into place. It's still a close fit, may need to address this, one thing for sure would be to have all the primary's slide into place like the rears, sure would make this way easier.

Notice here on the lower right of the photo, the center stand return spring is a tad close.

 

What are you doing with the slip-on problem with your Staintune?

 

At the moment not much, I do know from conversations with Gabe, then knowing I want this to be plug and play, I may mess with the header vs. the mid pipe. if it was for me only, I'd have Gabe weld on a new collar on the Staintune as I don't really want to shrink the collector any, I really won't know until I give it more thought and a dyno pull to know for sure. It has been running around in my head to run 50mm all the way out , but that means a new can, that's, if this 2.5 mm makes it worth the trouble. I had it in mind to find one with a tubing stretcher, ha, forget that. I saw what goes on with that, it would really mess up the Stainetune. So until I get a handle on this 48mm vs 50mm+ , One won't know. FWIW the full system can that would come with this header is 50mm all the way. its a low mount , Pff, and big to boot.

 

Was able to get a few minutes today cleaning up the rear swing arm area, and got a good look at how this 2Bro fits and aligns up. Definitely a cozy fit.



Center stand is looking doable. ?? Still need to snug it up all nice and tight, but looking good.

 

Jay, FWIW, I think there's a Two Bros. can or two on Ebay right now that might fit the full system, one more hammered than the other...

 

Time to make your own can RIGHT Mr.?


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Gabe and I have talk about that very thing, and since Staintunes are like just as hard to find separate, might just see what it's going to take. I have the mid pipe laid out.

 

Two areas I see opportunity for improvement are the first bend right off the flanges needs to taper down then expand back out. Thats something I have never seen TBR do with any of their headpipes. High end pipes are made that way though. Also the merge collector could benefit from a high velocity merge. Again thats where it would taper down then expand back out. Aside from that, just play around with different diameter tubing is all I can see Improving on really. Of course doing away with the cat helps

 

I thought you guys were duplicating the TBR full system? If not, you're up against the Delkevic at a fraction of the cost, which is an OE copy, and new OE at around $600.

 

Curious, who said I wasn't? I'm taking the 2Bro I have, checking all there is, looking over fitment and how it makes the VFR purrrr. , from that we'll know which way to make certain changes. Rest assured this is a performance hand crafted build, BW or the now debunked Delkevic won't even come close.

That being said, an up date of sorts. I'm waiting for the Penske to get back so I can run the VFR on the dyno, other wise nothing new...Yet

 

Well, above the photos you said "Just in case you have never seen a 98-99 header. Here's what I'm working with Gabe to replicate."

Glad to hear you're going for TBR replica, though!

 

That quote was probably before he struck gold and found a Two Brothers header, which took a lot of the guessing out of the equation, as the Two Brothers Header has been proven to maintain stock 3000-8000 power and make big gains from 8000-redline.

 

This header and pipe setup with an attached muffler may be the equivalent of a 500 peso car with a thousand peso set of chrome wheels. VAYA!