Is America strong enough

Just think, those guys look to be in their early 20s in the vid. Now they are probably collecting Social Security, living in Chilewacked, BC and those royalty checks just keep on coming.

....and maybe riding Harleys.

 

You are annoying me.

 

Randy, just going back a bit on our earlier discussion, our legal system is now so screwed over in favor of the offender that I fell so sorry for the cops, just running around in circles chasing these pricks, just for them to be let straight out on bail again. We have had some recently been released on bail up to 5 times without going to court and they just continue causing chaos. Had a mongrel here the other day kill 5 people driving a car through a pedestrian mall and he had been released on bail a few days earlier on a string of offences. Happening constantly here, I think we need a Trump to shake up our systems here, in Vic judges are appointed for life, what bullshit that is

 

I think my father has all this figured out better than anyone else. "I'll defend myself anyway I need to regardless of any laws written about self-defense."

 

Our judges here are saying that the American system of incarcerating criminals shows no evidence at all in rehabilitating criminals or acting as a deterrent. I believe they are likely correct. But those fuckers in jail will not be breaking into my house or raping our kids while in there. They are too busy raping the pretty boys there or getting raped themselves. And I feel so bad about that.

The Criminal Justice system had gone a long way in protecting the rights and freedoms of the average person in from the mid 1800's to the mid 1900's. Then bang!. All of a sudden things got all fucked up and we started on our road to the middle ages again. Soon we will see vigilantism flourish and anarchy reign supreme.

This is solely the judges fault. Seems what basically is wrong with our system here is that people go to University and learn to become lawyers. They learn how to take our laws and apply them in a manner that helps them get their clients off. Basically, there is not a hell of a lot wrong with that alone.

But. Prosecutors, who represent the public are also lawyers. They go to university where they learn to take our laws and apply them in a manner that helps them get their clients off.....Hmmmmm.

Now the fucking judges. They are lawyers who went to university where they learn to take our laws and apply them in a manner that helps them get their clients off.....Lordy man. Am I the only one who see's something wrong with this.

Judges need to be held accountable for their poor judgements. If a higher court over turns the lower court, that judge should be penalized by some reduction in pay for that trial he fucked up. If there is a return to similar crime by the parasite, every judge who dealt with him should be held accountable and have their renumeration clawed back.

One thing I do like about Trump. YOUR FIRED!

 

I am liking Norm's idea more and more. A Trump Hotel in the middle of the Outback is a hell of an idea.

 

The trump Administration is assuring Canada we have a special trade relationship between our two countries so his claims of protectionist policies should not adversely affect Canada. To reward Trump. Prime Minister Trudeau offered to sell to the Trump organization a piece of federally owned property for the American business to build a world class resort.

Cape Dorset Nunavut residents are extremely happy about the impending construction of this resort in their community to bring in high ranking tourism from the USA Federal Government bureaucracy. It will be built with environmentally safe and sustainable products from Canada. Mostly snow and ice. Baby harbour seals will be served as the main dish along side of polar bear livers and arctic fix paws as an appetizer. Ice-cream will be served as a desert when weather permits its safe and healthy storage. Smothered in Arctic Char gills sauce.

 

For those who for some reason don't buy all of the above post about Great Leader, Do check oot the documentary film, "You've Been Trumped" to see this dude in action. Best viewed with a flagon of Scotch with a haggis chaser.

Great Leader at his finest.

 

Billy that is a great idea for a Trump prison in the outback, they wouldn't need walls,fences or cells, just let them roam around the "hotel" and if they decided they wanted to walk away then so be it and good luck, no need to send out a search party, but somehow I can't see it happening because of all the "do gooders" and probably the UN would want to stick their nose in it as well. Pity because it is a good idea

 

The UN mandate would call for padded cells and flush toilets.

 

Yes Trump has Scottish roots from one of the islands, however we don't talk about that.

 

I don't know much about the Canadian legal system, but either there's an inside joke here that I'm missing, or your anger against judges seems a little misplaced. Judges in the US legal system don't write the laws that require lenient treatment of criminals, or require their premature release, any more than the police, prosecutors or defence lawyers do. And I can tell you that most of my colleagues were focused on getting rich or "saving the planet", not on learning how to defend scumbags for minimum wage.

Laws are written by legislators. Who are elected by citizens. So, it's ultimately your fault! :smile-new:

Ciao,

 

I agree with your post and will add that I don't think the vast majority of people incarcerated can be rehabilitated. That's been proven. Just getting them out of society reduces the cost of crime which is enough for me. I also believe in imprisonment at hard labor. Then prison becomes a deterrent. Right now, they get recreation, learn how to be more effective criminals, weights to make them more effective in violent situations, TV's for entertainment, you name it. If they went to bed too tired to get in trouble from labor all day, things would be different. Prisons have labor. Labor can make a prison a profit center instead of a cost center. The nanny state for grown adults doesn't work. Work does work.

 

Worry not, the donald has all that covered and will show those Damned Canucks who is boss.

 

When we lived in Toronto, Canadian's attitude toward it's southern neighbor was like sleeping next to an elephant, you just never knew when it was going to roll over.

 

Or Fart

:kaboom:

 

Unfortunately, many prisons ARE profit centers, as they have been privatized. A corporation is paid per night, per occupied bed. See any issue with that? The incentive for the share holders is to increase occupancy, and never let a prisoner go once incarcerated.

Sure, there are people who certainly belong there, as they are a danger either to citizens directly through violence, or indirectly by the tendency to mess with/steal other people's stuff. But in the past couple of decades, the drastic growth in prison population has been due to enforcement of the "War on Drugs" and mandatory sentences. One woman recently pardoned (after a couple of decades behind bars) had gotten a life sentence for driving her boyfriend to a house to do a drug deal. The dealer and the boyfriend both took plea bargains, and have been out for a long time. She lost the "not guilty" plea, made on the advice of a public defender, and got LIFE. She had not possessed any drugs or a weapon when the bust went down. Thousands like her have never needed to be "rehabilitated", just redirected/educated. And they should have never been jailed in the first place.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEPZhGJxP0o

 

Riding I agree with most of what you say, but the shitheads we are having problems with are the revolving door ones that get out on bail/ parole time and time again and these are the ones causing all the problems with murders and rapes, these are the ones that should be shot on the spot without question or trial, why waste public money on them. And the bit about the private owners is a bit over the top, the owners are paid per prisoner, but that money does come from the public purse and they have no say in who stays and who goes

 

So, in the state where I live, I can legally kill someone on the spot for murder, rape, invading my castle, or overtly threatening me with violence. So maybe guns do solve a lot of problems. I have no problem with private prisons because it's more than obvious that anything government does can be done more cost effectively by the private sector. The best way to not have a prison problem is to not break laws. Why do people break laws? Because the incentive not to break laws is not strong enough.

I think a lot of us need a long motorcycle ride...; )