The Oil Filter thread for Long term engine life!

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  1. sunofwolf

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    I would like every one to list the oil filter they are using and the model, year. Mines a 2006-vfr 800 currently using a Purolator pure one Pl14610 -there are some concerns about this filter slowing up oil flow, so I am going to look at other filters. The best oil filter that I use currently is a Napa Platinum for synthetic oil 41516 in my srt-4 neon, my research tells me its the best filter for the car. I bet there is a Napa Platinum that will fit a VFR. Riders put many miles on these bikes, so the best oil filter is important.:mechanic:
     
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    I just shove a tampon in the hole.
     
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    I have heard the same concerns about the Pure One footer. Some say it's the cat's meow, some swear it is the cause of all evil in the world and will cause simultaneous mutation of all the world's children, our the bypass valve is too weak, our something. Somehow the detractors say it allows too much unfiltered oil, or too low of pressure.

    I too have read that the Napa Platinum filter is good. I used to run them exclusively in my cars. No Napa convenient to me, so I use another good brand. I think I have a higher capacity Bosch in my bike now.
     
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    It's bad enough that SOWs technical expertise is non existent. Please try to not bring his baser instincts to these hallowed halls.
     
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    who makes the napa filter? i doubt its made by napa
     
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    why not just buy an oem filter and call it a day? :mech:
     
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    If you just filter the oil better, its bound to be better for the engine. Napa does make a platinum oil filter using synthetic media that filters extremely well and also flows well and holds a lot of dirt too. I am going to try one on my car, on a motorcycle it would make a bigger difference. The percolator pure one does filter very good, but won't flow as well as a full synthetic media type would. I was able to buy a napa platinum for $8.00, they usual cost $12.99. If I see it on sale again-I would buy one for the bike. If you don't think oil and filters matter then take a look at how that English guy got over 400,000 miles out of two vfr 750 engines-he changed the oil every week of during that week we are taking about over 4200 miles maybe. I am happy that my comments are worth the weight of Diamonds. at least 500cts.:nelson:
     
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    Sunofwolf, I noticed most posts on mission critical topics like oil filters and air filters do not get much response on blogs that are not related to racing. Most riders on this blog spend most of their time riding and having fun. I wish I was one of them instead of spending time trying to improve every square inch of these bikes or making them last longer. The only 2 bikes I have that use a filter are my 86 VFR700 with has only used OEM and my Honda CRF250X which I switched to a Scotts SS filter. I wanted to see how much metal I would find in the filter. That little 250 only uses about .75 quarts so I was interested in how much wear it would have. I have yet to ride it enough to clean it yet.

    I was just looking for any interest in the SS filters from PC racing, Scotts or the maker of them, K&P. Not much interest....... I am going to buy one for the VFR and also check for metal when I clean it. That is the main reason to buy one along with longevity of this engine. I hope to inspect the metal under my Leica scope just out of curiosity. There probably will not be much to see though since I use Amsoil Metric bike oil and other synthetics along the way. And it is a Honda V4 engine!!! For my cars and trucks: Mobil1 filters.

    There is another SS filter that is even better but not worth $250.

    I agree that the filter is way more critical than the oil. You can throw a dart at a wall of different oils and most will be great, even car engine oil (if changed early). Car engine oil is not made to stand up to a clutch and transmission tearing the additive package apart. It is still good if changed early and not abused much. I am sure no one here would dare use car engine oil in their bikes! We all did way back in the last century before bike oil was developed or we knew better. Ed
     
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    I use an OEM because they're good enough for Honda, I have tens of thousands of very hard miles on them with zero problems, and all oil filter data I've ever seen on a forum is anecdotal. So, I go with OEM and forget about it and ride like hell.
     
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    Absolutely nothing wrong with OEM. But due to cost, I switched to another. There are quite a few out there that are fine. K&N are not ! Do not use these pieces of shit. I switched to Bosch which I have learned are as good as OEM or better. They are readily available and sometimes go on sale for a further savings. Even at Walley World. I switched at about the 100,000 km point or there abouts and now have over 200,000 km. So, for the vast majority of people considering how little they really do ride their bikes, after market of choice is fine so long as you get a quality filter.

    Sonofwolfs advice should be taken with a grain of salt and a couple bottles of Pepto-Bismol
     
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    Purolator l14612
    Pl14612 is too tight
    Most filters open bypass filter during warmup bypassing the filter but you want somthig that filters most of the time.
     
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    I had a friend who gave me free honda oil filters, he was trying to convince me to use them on the kawasaki I have. I was like, "wtf?" am I such a cheap bastard as to possibly jepordize my motor by co-mingeling oil filter brands? Nope, I saved in one area, and I bought oem kawi filters for my other scooter. Your opinions may vary, I ride/drive like hell with a free mind cause I have the best motor-oil/tires on all my chit :peace:
     
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    Want long engine life? No K&N.
    Anything else has to be better.
     
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    Running a Scotts on my 25 year old VFRF. No problems or crap in the mesh. No Leitz scope unfortunately.. I use Rotella T. OEM Honda filters are probably made in China and as soon as one fails on somebody's bike, the luddites will lament, the moaning will ensue, the anecdotes will flow, hand wringing will commence and, if we are really fortunate, SOW will be chosen by the Trump administration as Secretary of Cat Houses.

    The arithmetic, if one keeps their bikes is easy. My Scotts paid for itself a long time ago.
     
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    THE #1 HELP YOU CAN DO for longer engine life, whatever filter u use, is to pre-fill it with oil up to about 1" below the hole. This will avoid running with zero oil pressure and avoid bearing damage and not spill out as much as you'd guess when mounting up the filter. It takes up to 10 minutes, adding a little oil and waITing for it to soak in b4 adding more until the level is about 1" below the hole.
     
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    What he said. If there's a hot sale going on at Wal*Mart that just can't be missed, if ya ain't got time to soak a filter, at least don't try to play fast guy like those dudes from Italy and Spain who go real fast and talk funny, for a mile or two.
     
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    as great as this is, it depends on the filter placement. on Chevys it's plug and play, on the VFRs it ain't so.. This thread gets me thinking I should look into the Scotts.....
     
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    Honda filters are made in Japan or the he us.
    I have never seen one made anywhere else.
     
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    I want to see someone prefill their oil filter and then tilt it 90° and put it on their VFR... Spill much????
     
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    No kidding. Even the proper size wee filter is a tight fit and most of not all that oil will be running down your hand and lubricating your armpits before you are done. If you are using a larger filter, good luck period.

    In theory, I suppose there is some good to this practice but I am of the opinion, for what that is worth, that this practice is not needed. Maybe on a new bike. But I think that the engine is sufficiently lubricated with residual oil that the engine will be fine running it for the two or three seconds it takes to fill that filter through the oil pump. I have never done that and haven't noticed any bad side effects as a result.
     
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