5th Gen Best Mod$: "Actually Readily Obtainable and Available"

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    I'm putting him on ignore. The inanity of the babble, trying to use big words to justify opinion is too much for me.

    I have better things to do with my life that to feed his delusion.
     


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    Perfect ignore the thread enough to post a comment on how you're ignoring the thread
     


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    There's a Dyno in with the Delkevic eBay posting that shows free flow headers make 102 whp or 5 who gain over OEM 98 whp, that's about 5% and what you'll see with new pipes
     


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    Actually Black Widow Performance Exhaust is both very Saavy and clever to provide a "true & improved SS equilvilent" full system and by performing the final assembly with welded connections for quality assurance, they deserve to be praised by the 5th Gen Community for providing a quality inventory directly to global consumers. That's why I give them the highest rating possible ��
     


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    Now if that doesn't sound like something one of the engineers I deal with, that and some over the top pilots ;) I SMH, being from prior threads I've read you have a back ground in aviation? something along the lines of a contract gig with Boeing? IDK. But if I were you I'd stop right there with all that fancy jargon. That again only validates what I've been saying, you're coming across kinda full of yourself. Just Wow
     


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    He's saying that the cycles of heating and cooling of the exhaust will cause the seal used at the joints to eventually shrink. I suppose this could happen and yes, a welded header would obviously not do this. I will grant him this.

    Cat, as I don't know you, I can only base my opinion on what you've written. As such, it seems like a lot of opinion that is being pushed as fact. That's what has put me on edge and I know I come across as a human exhaust port. I understand your passion to get the most out of your bike, but, take a step back and look at which bike you're foolishly sinking thousands of dollars into. It's a VFR. There literally is only so much you can do to it and quite honestly, no matter what you do to the engine, your going to get a very limited return. It isn't the platform to start with. There only thing that makes any real sense whatsoever with this v4 is the supercharger kit that was available, that no longer is. Suspension and brakes are where the bike will see the greatest return. And, even with that, it is still a 500+ pound bike. There are far greater platforms to begin with that will see a much better ROI.

    I have a 1999 and I ride it hard at times, but I know that it is a 1999 bike and I know its limitations. I also know from my own experience as one who sold bikes, and as one that has literally test ridden over $100,000 in motorcycles in the past two years, that it is a limited spec bike, by design, and even thousands of dollars into it won't make it what you want.

    If you're trying track it and trying to get into the A class and hang with the real track bikes, then no matter what you do, it will never get there. It's a sports touring bike. More sports than touring, but it's still not a sportbike. Similar in many regards, but still not there.

    If you re-read this thread, along with your own admissions, you'll see the truth in this. This thread is now seven pages long and yet it could actually be three. The opportunity for power to dollar return isn't there. The aftermarket support isn't there. Perhaps you're okay with sinking a few hundred dollars into an aftermarket exhaust that gives you a few extra HP, but in all actuality, you'll never truly feel it unless you're over 10-20.

    Spend the money on the suspension, on the brakes, on your own self development as a rider. That is where you will see the most ROI and the greatest improvement of the bike and its capability, with the single highest return being in yourself. 90+% of the people here, myself included can't ride these bikes to their limits. I've had personal coaching about a year ago from WSB racer David Anthony out at Chuckwalla raceway here in California, but I know even still the bike can give more than I can ask.

    Why have you chosen the route of highest expense and least return?
     


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    That's all find and dandy based upon what you know as applied to your particular situation, capabilities and purpose for owning and riding 1999, however my situation, capabilites and purpose are totally different. First of all accept the fact that it's going to cost what it's going to cost, for the most part. That being true, next just what is necessary for "it", being simply the bike to perform within the full limitations of its basis for design. So that being said, it has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with "racing" or being a "racer", so just get that out of your mind and your and your thinking.

    This is about 5th Gen Performance Mod$ Readily Available and Obtainable.

    Ok now try again, 2nd Play and use your knowledge, experience and capability to depict a contribution to the thread as applicable in your perception to the concept of the thread topic, if possible
     


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    OK, I'll bite. By strictly using this parameter; 5th Gen Performance Mod$ Readily Available and Obtainable, then it's simply, exhaust, fuel/ignition controller, brakes and suspension. Anything else is custom. Does the German ECU actually do anything differently than any other? I am still not convinced. So, based solely on the criteria given above, it is already laid out. Everything else would come from rider development, which is basically really available and obtainable to pretty much anyone and will be the single most rewarding and safest "mod" that can be done, even if racing never came into the equation. There will never be a limit to what a motorcycle rider can improve himself/herself on.
     


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    The abilities for the rider to proportionately do all of the above ?
     


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    I mostly am referring to a rider improving his/her abilities to safely, efficiently and correctly pilot their machines. But, personal development is a big part of that too.
     


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    Well Said Lint...
     


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    Purely situational awareness��
     
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    SITUATIONAL?? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

    The only thing situational about this is every single time you ride your motorcycle. There is no single time that you need to be a better ride than another. Situational? An attitude such as that is suicidal. You NEVER stop needing to be a better rider. Any thinking to the contrary is arrogance and hubris.

    WTF? Situational. Seriously? I hope you have a good life insurance plan.

    You sound like someone who is new to riding and has the suicidal attitude of a "know it all", when in fact you know very little. I pray for your family that your passing will be quick and that they are able to move past your inevitable death from crashing with an attitude like that. This isn't some video game. This is real life with real consequences affecting the people left more behind than you. Pride equals death. Or, worse, a vegetative state that is now a burden upon family and the state.

    Please, for the sake of anyone and everyone in your life, throw your keys into the deepest darkest lake you can find and don't ride until you change that attitude. I almost started to respect you until this comment. You haven't a clue and that is a HORRIBLE thing when a motorcycle is involved. Situational. Do you even have a filter between your brain and your fingers?
     


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    Beat me to it... SMH "Purely situational awareness" WT... How so? I'll agree to a small part there's always a situation all the time, every frickin second your on the bike, so you better have your A game in mind all the time. I tell ya , this one throws me for a loop, just who are you?
     


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    Who am I ? I am the bigger question , why are you asking ?
     


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    That's fine, I understand
     


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    I think it's time to lock this thread.
    It is of no value to this site, and it's starting to look like trailer trash talk.
     


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    Typical 1st play "smear", that's ok, now try again "on topic" (if possible)��
     

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    Thank you. I in no way whatsoever benefit in anything you do. I offer my experience free of charge under the guise of helping you. I only want to help you stay alive, become a better rider and enjoy the sport as much as possible. Since I am a financial advisor whose company mission is to help as many families as possible to achieve financial freedom from debt and to achieve their dreams, I am against throwing money at things that don't have a real measurable value.

    You've had people all over the world on two different forums take time out of their lives to freely offer advise based on actual experience, while asking nothing more in return than for you to humbly consider their suggestions.

    Please get trained and learn all you can about bikes and their proper use. Not only does it keep you alive, but it greatly increases your enjoyment and confidence in bad situations. We all want the same thing, for ourselves and for you, and that is to have the most fun, in the safest way possible.

    Take care of yourself.

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    Please don't. Just don't.
     


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