what did you do to your vfr today?

EBC HH pads, a thorough bleeding of the lines and a DMr suspension update and it'll be a new bike! Some Bridgestone S21, Pirelli Super Corsa II or Michelin PP3 tires wouldn't hurt either.

 

That's what I'm thinking. I have no experience flushing moto brakes, especially linked brakes. May have to buy some whiskey and head south...

I know I asked in a different thread, buy is there a radial master cylinder that would work better for the front? I know I shouldn't compare new bikes to old, but modern bikes have such great brakes.

 

Or come up here and I'll do it fer ya!

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No matter how hot the ambient was, or how twisty the road, 246*F is way too high.
My first suspicion would be partially opened thermostat, or very dirty cooling system.
I can vouch for the EBC HH and the PP3's, I don't think I will be going back to a sport touring tyre any time soon.

 

Well my garage is almost always open for you, as long as I'm around it is. I'd be glad to help you with the bleeding, just let me know what day works best for you. Of course weekends are best but if work schedule isn't too demanding I do work from home quite a bit during the week, so that's an option too.

 

Those "petal" rotors stock or chinese? EBC makes good stuff btw.

 

Here is some info on brake pads. I have tried a lot over the years at the track and what Mike writes in his article is pretty spot on. He's a member on here but does not visit often. He is a plethora of information and is one of those guys that does testing himself for a long time. He is Dan Kyle's main guy at Kyle racing.

http://www.rogueracing.org/hrcpads.htm

 

They are straight from the EBC factory.

 

Ultimately it goes back to what you know. I can say that I do not have any issues with my current setup but as he mentions, I may not be going fast enough! As far as Vesrah, I recall these being the ticket back when my Duc was just a Duckling. That's what the shop put on mine when I had it serviced back in the day.

As far as EBC HH, he just mentions the warping issue, which may or may not have been resolved but didn't say too much more than that. Well, except "they are crap" lol. Again, maybe I'm just not going fast enough but I have not had any issues with fading or anything that would give me cause to say they are crap. Considering the majority of my riding is Street, Touring and Canyon, where I am not going at track level speeds, they seem fine to me. I would assume his remarks are based on racing and track performance and not necessarily Street or daily commuter performance?

Just goes to show you, like with tires, unless you put on something better than what you have, there is no way to know what you have is the best that you can get.

 

I think for street riding just about anything will do. But if your doing some fairly fast canyon/twistie rides I would go with something that does not fade with heat and also will give you good bite and feed back when cold. Years ago I ran a set of EBC HH on a fast track and they faded fast on the back straight to the point I had to slow down, was scaring the crap out of me. For the street they are probably just fine.

I flushed all my brake lines on my 09 a few months back, I followed a how to thread I found on here or VFRD and it went fine but the linked brakes are a pain in the ass, in mores ways than one.

 

No, it came right down with the fan. Mulholland Drive has parts that are tight and uphill, so it's a lot of hard braking, then hard acceleration, but it's also tight, so you can't get the speed up to get a lot of air flowing through the radiators. This combo is tough on keeping the temps down. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Roc...bf82a757b!2m2!1d-118.7881319!2d34.1095941!1m0 It's a lot tighter than this looks.

 

I'm going to run some radiator flush through it and then refill with water and Water Wetter. It is too hot, I agree.

 

That guide is great. It seems that I've become the go to guy for brake bleeding. Several members have come by to have me help them with their bleed jobs! I guess having two linked brake bikes and having changed the pads a couple times each and having swapped the lines for SS lines on both bikes, it's almost second nature for me!

Well I have a track day coming up next weekend at Fontana Raceway so we'll see how the pads hold up. I don't recall having an issue with brake fade at Chuckwalla back in February but again, was I going fast enough? Probably not, it was my first time at that track plus I was really just getting the feel for the track and it was windy as HELL! Hard to ride fast in a sand storm! LOL. That's probably my one gripe about Chuckwalla, a lot of sand and wind out there.

 

That PC racing oil filter or the finned Scotts filter might help keep the temps down Lint. I really think its acting like another oil cooler, I saw a 2 degree lower reading after installing it while running in town routes that I know very well. I have to do more observing but I think it is helping.

 

Tight and twisty?...Decker Canyon! That and Latigo. Two of my favorite roads up in the BU!

 

This is the hard part about changing stuff, like coolant and other "performance" items. Unless the conditions are identical it is hard to really know for sure that what we put in did make difference. After a stint up in the Sierra mountains where we were all hitting temps in the 230+ range!, I went to Engine Ice and of course trying to replicate the conditions to see if it made a difference was of course next to impossible. On the average though the bike(s) do seem to have lower temps than I remember seeing constantly but without a side by side apples to apples comparison, no way to know sure. That being said, I am probably going to go with the PC filter on my 5 Gen. Considering it is my "performance" VFR. LOL

 

Yeah duplicating conditions is hard. Anything I can do to cool her down is good. I run water and water wetter, no freezing temps down here. Probably the only way to do it would be a dyno. Mike, LDH who wrote the brake article has a dyno, maybe he can do a test. LOL
I do think the fins on the filter do act like a cooler, as to how much...? Who knows. Linked brakes on the track must be interesting, I have had a few exciting moments on the street with them. To many years of riding without them. I do like them for just tooling around but trail braking into a corner with them....... Probably land on my head. lol I still want to run the VFR around the track for the heck of it though, probably in novice.

 

Wow Lint, so that's the infamous route to the Rock store, Nice. Well then all is cool. Not sure what brand brake pads I have since i have no reason to mess with em yet, I do know the fronts are probably stock Honda as the original owner was a believer in using Honda parts, can say the fronts work pretty good,, but man this LBS is something to get use too. So this winter I'll be playing with that. knowing and prefer the feeling of the CBR brakes has me getting that on the Viffer.

 

Stock Honda pads are good.

 

BTW, Sport Bike Track Gear carries Vesrah pads...

Almost forgot, the pads he shows on his web page are HRC pads, I take it these are different than the standard off the shelf Honda pads?