BAN K-N oil filters

I spent a bunch of pesos on a Harley once. No love affair there..

Never have minded the right hands on any of my bikes. A shitload of things done to any bike are sometimes best done by hands that do those things daily.

My Scott's filter was aboot 108 pesos and shipping.

Honda makes some great stuff if ya don't talk too much aboot regulator/rectifiers, stock monoshocks and wiring connections.

 

Piper Cross for me, excellent filter that uses all of the airbox surface. Eventually if they make GOOD headers for the VFR again it will help a tiny bit. I know what you mean about drying Randy but it really does not take that long if applied properly and I usually do something else like clean and lube the chain while it finishes drying. I have had a K&N air filter on my 4Runner since near the beginning and have 250k on it and had another 4Runner that I gave to my daughter when she was in high school that ran 350 k with a K&N. Now the oil filter is another problem. I'm sure there have been improper installs BUT the photos that were posted with calipers showing the size of stock compared to the K&N prove that they are not the correct diameter and that is the reason for O ring failures. I have seen 2 personally that I installed correctly that pinched the O ring. The mating surfaces do not line up correctly.

 

If installation is the cause of failure it follows that the design is faulty too - compared to all the other filters that don't have this problem.

If you want to run their air filters buy two so you can have one that's dry and oiled and ready to go.

 

I never thought of that Rob. The drying time is after you have rinsed it with water. Once the water has evaporated, you can apply the oil and basically go. I know many here from warm dry climates will achieve dryness quite quick but us here on the wet coast or the PNW, sometimes have to wear a breathing apparatus to walk down the street. It can take almost all day in the garage for these to dry.

But. Subject of the post is their crappy oil filters. Just what are they worth anyway. You can get quality aftermarket oil filters for 5 bucks or so.

 

Do you have an air compressor Randy? It will cut the dry time to near nothing if you blow dry it and then a couple of min with a hair dryer and your done. Just not to hot with the hair dryer. I usually just use compressed air and s it in the sun for a few.

 

Rob is now in first place in the tip of the week contest.

"If you want to run their air filters buy two so you can have one that's dry and oiled and ready to go. "

This will last until somebody posts that if ya use a K&N oil filter bring at least three quarts of oil with you in your tankbag..


Part of the maintenance of a K&N air filter for at least my VFR is the cleaning part. Rinsing with even hot water is not going to break down the old oil. A slosh in warm water and dish detergent or a squirt of dilute Purple Power or one of the similar concentrates followed by a rinse, will not only break down the oil mollycules but the oil free fibres will dry a lot faster.

For some reason, and this is not a plug.. How many of you dudes here shave before ya shower and how many dudes here shave after ya shower.

The answers should be limited to the shaving of facial areas. Needless to say, that pix of any other parts are not particularly required. Bath takers and those doing part time gigs as Santa will be counted but not given credit for a full vote.

 

I do as a matter of fact. A big honking fugger. The pump can keep up supplying enough air to fully fill the 80 gallon tank even with th pet cock at the bottom fully open. But the instructions on the K&N specifically warns against the use of compressed air. I admit though. I used it often with low pressure and holding the air nozzle at a fair distance. But it still has to air dry to some degree. I don't have a hair dryer and I would only use the wife's once before it and she disappeared from my life. I just got fed up with the hassle. The extra cash for the OEM filters, for the number I use these days, is well worth the effort to me.

 

Roger that Randy, nothing wrong with OEM.

 

Come on Randy, Man up! https://www.amazon.com/MANGROOMER-1680XL-6-Professional-Ionic-Dryer/dp/B006BNFXHU


There's even an alternative. Buy your sweetie a new one then whine for the old one.

 

I usually spray first with K$N cleaner, wait a bit and spray from the bottom with hose, then lay a towel on the floor and drop flat a few times to get excess water out-- put in the sun on my driveway for about an hr, spray with oil and install.
Easy Peezy


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Badbilly
I've tried several different (cheaper) cleaners for K$N air filters.
The K$N "Power Clean" works great. You'll be surprised just how clean they get.


Edit: Beat me to it Ducc lol.

 

Yep, I'm cheap. At 13 pesos and change a quart, it better work! LOL There's a good MSDS page on the Power Clean. One of the components of the mix is sodium hydroxide. (Lye) great as a paint remover and making soap from all kinds of fat except maybe duck fat that makes the best Jo-jo's ya ever et.

The fibres in the air filters are cotton. Lye eats organic stuff like cotton, wood, Jimmy Hoffa ect.

Purple Power and similar products of which there are several, are concentrates. A gallon of PP at Walmart is seven pesos and change. Used straight it will dissolve dripped oil on concrete, brick and asphalt driveways and garage decks. Dilute forms run to ratios of 30:1. Best analogy here without a shitload of directions is the stuff is basically what ya get in a five peso squirt bottle of products like Mr. Kleen only for making up five gallons. All those "cleaners" like Formula 409, Senor Kleen, Simple Green are pretty much the same thing.

...and yes, the concentrates should be diluted before hosing it on some substrates, chiefly raw or anodized aluminum. This is well covered my forthcoming text as yet unfinished to be sort of titled, "RTFM For Dummies" . This inspired from the loss of a friend who ODd on horseradish.

 

Simple Green does a great job too.

 

I guess my 2700psi Honda pressure washer would not be a safe bet.

 

K&N air filters are garbage IMHO (and we already know I think their oil filters are for tossers ... lolz Nelix) - a waste of money for what you get ... I've owned several in the past ... it's all about brand recognition and association. They have good marketing.

I use OEM or Hi-Flo Filtro OEM replacements.

 

I've been dealing with K$N air filters for 12 years on six Dodge rams. If you have the cash to buy one, you can damn well afford the cleaner. I've tried all the aforementioned less expensive products. By all means keep using them if you think they're satisfactory. But just keep in mind how often you service your K$N when figuring your peso savings on cleaners.

Also look up the dyno results. I don't know if they post them for bikes but with cars and trucks you'll only see higher hp's and torque at only high rpm's.

 

Up here trying to dry anything like that could take six months..

 

I got the cash to buy the filters, the cleaner and the oil. Maybe that's because I don't buy a new truck every two years especially a Dodge Ram.. Is there something haywire about them we should know about?

Tell ya what..run your bike as is to George Deans shop in Montlake Terrace (get an appointment first) . Do a real dyno run on the bike. George has a real dyno as opposed to one of those shootout types that show little more than where the tourque and HP meet and where the ignition cuts out.

Then clean and oil your K&N with the "Right Stuff" and do another run. Publish the figures.

The tab shouldn't be much more than 5-6 payments on a new truck.

What you are missing is that most of these proprietary "cleaners" are similar in formulation. This lands your argument back on square one.

Just for the sake of shits and giggles, lets take one relative example of cheap vs expensive. There are many.

This one being relative to the "Right Stuff" containing a small amount of sodium hydroxide (lye).

Same stuff as in a can of Drano for a fiver and change at the local Safeway. Drano was kind of better a few years ago when it was spiffed up with aluminum pellets. Small problem. The combo produces Hydrogen gas. This lent the chemically savvy to put the stuff in plastic soda bottles and run a long fuse to it. Now the same effect is done with the same bottles and fuse only the sodium hydroxide is in liquid form and the aluminum is a wad of Reynolds Wrap.. Kind of like a mini-Hindenberg.. and a subtle caution not to light up in the john if ya got a can of the old stuff working taking care of those pesky hairballs in the tub drain.

Other uses too..Making your own soap. Get some used oil from The local fried chicken joint and make your own manly chicken nugget scented soap. Kick some prices asses at Taco Bell too. Lye water and corn and voila home made masa harina.

25 lbs of food grade lye is aboot a buck and a half a pound. Commercial grade like Drano (flake lye) is less. Same stuff IMO.

 

Whatever....

Oh, and these are not my Dodges. I just work on them. If you ever think of buying a dodge, read the forums first.

 

Too bad ya didn't save those K&N air filters you could have shared them for all the dudes here that use the Right Stuff.

Now to this replacement filter stuff and tossing... Another example of why pix are not always necessary.