Concealed Carry Weapon on bike

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  1. Diamondhead

    Diamondhead New Member

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    In AZ you can carry concealed without a permit..only need it if you want to carry outside the state
     


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    exactly....
     


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    I would say guns cause more problems then no guns especially with cops-I don't see how you can trust them any more-not to fuk just shoot you especially if your Black
     


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    I pack heat to protect myself from being abducted by sex crazed harleydoodchicas.
     


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    wear a level 111a chickin vest if your scared to go outside like the cops use-as little as $300 but watch out for :chaingun: military tins come in 1260 round boxes with 1600fps bullets perfect for picnic's. oh the vest are great when you crash too after being chased by Zombies.
     
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    SCOTUS has *never* interpreted that clause as such.
     


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    I, and many others, would say you are wrong. And cops shoot more whites than blacks, so ... save the rhetoric for somewhere else.
     


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    Last stat I saw it was 75% white shot by cops. How about complying with what cops say and keeping your hands in sight. Perhaps not having a gun in your hand too.
     


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    Gonna have to shut you down here. This article (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-by-police-yes-but-no/?utm_term=.97d2d3839581) from July of this year not only refutes your claim that whites are 75% of victims, but also explains that blacks as a percentage of the population (13%) are nearly twice that percentage (24%) of police shooting victims. And whites are 49% of victims while they make up 62% of the population. Furthermore, you ascertation that any situation where a person is shot by the police involves them not cooperating or having a gun in their hand is a logical fallacy, apart from being a complete falsehood.
     


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    LOL at shut me down. Are you an actuary? Stats can be skewed to prove anything. Perhaps 75% is a bit steep but a lot more whites are killed. Even on a per ca-pita basis all the yelling about BLM is not going to fly. All lives matter is a better slogan. And yes the vast majority of this comes from not complying with Leo's. I'm not saying that there are bad cops or bad shootings. Of coarse there are. If your not doing something wrong and your stopped by law enforcement you had better compy or the situation will escalate. Cops want to go back to their families too. Here are a few more stats for you to peruse through. Before you shut me down again. lol Then we can get Sir Charles Barkley involved in the equation and listen to some unfiltered black man opinions.

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler#

    http://www.snopes.com/do-police-kill-more-whites-than-blacks/
     


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    Despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks committed 52% of all homicides in the US for nearly 30 years (1980 to 2008 DOJ stats). Don't forget that 95% of black homicide victims are killed by other blacks.

    Ignoring the fact that blacks (mostly men) commit a grossly disproportionate amount of crime (versus other races) while claiming blacks get shot at 'twice the rate' of whites is nothing but manipulation of the data to (falsely) support your claim. If you're going to artfully attempt to manipulate the facts, then don't hide the fact that blacks are committing far, far, far more violent crimes than whites.
     


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    Excellent post. I have talked to some of my black friends about this. Listen to Charles Barkley, he is not giving blacks a pass, he is telling them that they are the biggest problem in race relations. He is calling on them to step up, get educated, be a responsible parent, citizen, get a job and stop pointing fingers. Before all the shit came out on Bill Cosby he was taking a beating from the black community by saying basically the same things.
     


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    The fact is there are unjustified shootings of every race....black, white, Hispanic, Asian, etc... Each time a black man gets shot now, we are to ignore the circumstances, ignore that he may have been aggressive and ignored the cops instructions, ignore than had a gun (or weapon) and was pointing it at the officer, ignore than he was on drugs and was not complying with the officers instructions.

    What we need to do is first burn the city and neighborhood to the ground and injure as many innocent bystanders as we can. Then we need to armchair quarterback what the officer had to decide in mere seconds over many many months and arrive at our own conclusion about what events should have transpired and show how much better that we would have handled the situation. Dealing with the scum and trash that officers have to deal with day in and day out, we know we would do a better job. Then we can just hang the SOB cop, because it is much better to arrive at our judgement hastily and implement trial by social media, rather consider the circumstances and facts and use our own judicial system.
     


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    "1. Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015."
    There are over 4 times as many whites as blacks in the US, which means that if people were targeted without concern to their race, FOUR times as many whites would have been killed. Did the author of this article go to high school?
    "2. More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks." The statistic offered about the rate of police deaths compared to other rates of death is completely irrelevant. Blacks face a completely different set of dangers than whites in their daily lives, WHICH IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS CONVERSATION.
    "3. The Post's data does show that unarmed black men are more likely to die by the gun of a cop than an unarmed white man...but this does not tell the whole story." The author then goes on to list a small number of ANECDOTES which are literally meaningless in this conversation. They might as well be saying "I saw a white guy obey the law, so white people arent criminals."
    "4. Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers." This point uses a study from a single city, and for that reason can only be applied to that city. THIS IS POOR JOURNALISM.
    "5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops." This is like saying "Dog groomers are more likely to groom dogs than dogs are to groom humans." what a fucking joke of an article. This website is OBVIOUSLY biased, based on the fact that they call the black lives matter movement "leftist sympathizers" as if it is some kind of crime to be liberal.


    Secondly, did you even read the first lines of that snopes article??? It argues my point, that despite more whites being killed by cops, blacks are far more likely to be killed by police in an interaction than whites are.

    Your point about the "All Lives Matter" BS is ridiculous. Allow me to explain this like youre a fifth grader. If you are at dinner with your family, and everyone is served food except for you, you could rightly say "I deserve food." Now imagine your brother says "everyone deserves food" and the situation goes on without you getting served. Your brother is not wrong, but his statement does nothing to remedy the fact that you are being mistreated. Get it? In the same way that the feminism movement, despite having the root word of "female" right in the title, does not wish to bring men down but rather to bring women up to the level of treatment as men, the black lives matter movement wishes to point out that there IS an inequality, not the fact that there shouldnt be one.

    wdgah, the whole point of data is that anyone who bothers to read the statistics that go along with a study will find that they do in fact speak to the results of the study, and CANNOT be manipulated.

    To anyone else who wants to discuss this, come at me with some numbers, or, idk, actual journalism unless you want to get shut down.
     


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    Ghost why are you bring logic to this emotional discussion? lol
     


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    LOL Hellapet. He's coming right at me! I think you went over the 5th grader heads. There is a lot of opportunity out there IF you want to take advantage of it and not cry foul all the time. Should we go back to Ebonics in California too?
     


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    Well I came up with a solution for Chicago -all black men must wear city issued 2a chickin vest's that might keep a few alive long enough to go to jail, I think I will get one myself too-stops a 44 mag-but you will have to still go to the hospital. I think , I will add the 460 S+W to my arsenal.
     


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    Why not cry foul, when there's foul shit going on all the time?
    I am coming at you. I challenge you to try and understand and learn about this social issue that until now you obviously had no real knowledge of. What is this opportunity youre talking about? My opportunity is getting a message out there thanks to the news coverage of some really tragic events.
     


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