Bearing Pinch Bolt stuck....

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  1. JoeBod

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    Any and all help welcome...

    Chain was getting a bit loose with more that the recommended amount of play in it so I have decided to tighten it up a touch. However I cannot seem to crack the bearing pinch holder bolt. I have tried with multiple tools, with multiple degrees of 'effort', but I am concerned about damaging the bolt head, or another part when the tool comes flying off the bolt. Anyone else had this issue? Any tips? Plan on taking it to the local shop tomorrow and asking them to crack it for me and re-torque it, but hoping to get an answer before then.

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    Give it a liberal spray of liquid wrench. A couple taps with a hammer lightly on the head of the bolt may help. I would put the proper sized socket on the bolt first and strike the socket. Then use and Impact Gun and it should come off. If you use a wrench, use the box end. Open end wrenches tend to slip and strip the bolt heads easier than a socket or box end wrenches.
     


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    Proper procedure would be to have a six point deep socket in size 17mm and use a breaker bar or the ratchet wrench you want to abuse with a piece of pipe added to the length. If you have a centre stand use it, you should be able to break torque with this set-up. If not, visit the local bike shop as you mentioned aboove :peace: :mech: :loco:
     


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    I have always found it better to shock the bolt loose with a short sharp tap with a hammer used against what ever tool you place on the bolt

    Constant pressure from a bar or other will usually result in something stripping out

    But everybody has their own solutions ,I am sure you will get it undone one way or another
     


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    ^ This is extremely important. Find someone with a decent impact driver (pneumatic, or powered) and the appropriate extension, swivel adapter, and impact socket who can loosen it for you.
     


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    Find out who hossed it up in the first place and have words with them.

    The bolt is supposed to be torqued to 88NM.

    To release would be 6point flank drive socket and long breaker bar remember its is going from back of bike to front to undo on throttle side. Its amazing how many peeps have had same trouble only to find they were tightening instead of slackening
     


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    Sounds like the dealership may be the culprit who cranked down on that pinch bolt. Good advice for maybe another time on the fixes. I'd take the bike, if this is the case, back to the dealer and ask aboot why the bolt is so tight.

    If this is your first go round at chain adjustment, that bolt is really tight for a reason. If for some reason the bolt head is not in the best condition, get a new one.
     


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    What??? Our own version of mechanical wizardry turning a bolt in the wrong direction? Preposterous!
     


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    Thanks all - I will give some of these suggestions a shot and see if I can get it to budge. If not I'll run it up the shop and have them crack it.
     
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    Kinda on the same line of thinking. I was going to ask, is it still under warranty? First adjustment? if so, this is one for the dealer to handle. if not then a trip to em asking WTF is u p. As noted in previous posts, 6 point 17mm with a breaker bar, pretty sure an air impact won't fit , wouldn't want to hurt that wheel, no no no, other wise I'd be using that.
     
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    Yep, back to the dealer with questions. The dealer IMO, (wishful thinking) should know the OP is not aware of some of the minor adjustments on his 2014 bike and maybe toss in some tips or schooling. When car and bike dealers go tits up because they just have to wring out every centavo from every visit or service call, are usually the first to order bigass boxes of Kleenex or crying towels when the manufacturers jerk the franchise.
     


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    Use quality tools too. Cheap Harbor Freight and such can have low spec tolerances and strip heads. You will be able to do it with the above techniques and go to the impact driver it needed. That's what the dealer will do anyways so might as well do the job yourself and know that its torqued back on correctly.
     


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    Success.

    Thanks again for all the input. I popped out and grabbed a breaker bar, put a little bit more 'oomph' behind it and got it to budge.

    Chain is sorted, but now to find a torque wrench that is not an absurd cost.

    Cheers for the help.
     


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    Sometimes you gota put a little "ass" behind things. You know, if you buy a quality tool such as a torque wrench from any of the excellent tool companies from American or maybe Germany, (if you lived there) you will own it for the rest of your life. Plus, you can go to the bank on "it" ie: believe that that extra 1/16 of a turn is gona click and your good to go. I've used many and the adage, "you get what you pay for" holds true. No shameless plugs here regarding who to buy, you can start a new thread on "torque wrenches" or for that matter "torque hammers" I have been known to whack a wrench or two with a soft faced hammer, not totally good practice, but it gets the job done. Working on the stuff you own, you take time that is not afforded sometimes when your getting paid flat rate or by the job. :peace:
     


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