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Discussion in 'Mechanics Garage' started by thebigtuna, Jun 12, 2016.

  1. OOTV

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    Can't take all the credit, I was just helping him get the cover off and then saw his photos and new something didn't look right! I can take credit for finding the $30 clutch basket on ebay though.
     


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    I love the title of this thread! Lol!
     


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    Bwhahaha, yissssss, there it is.
     


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  4. thebigtuna

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    Yeah thank you so much OOTV for that clutch basket find. Saved me a good chunk of change for that part. Got everything ordered, skipped on the friction plates and pressure plate since it had to cracks. I appreciate all the help! Getting antsy to get it up and running again!
     


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    Clutch bolts are incredibly easy to over-torque, especially for macho types or guys using cheap Harbor Freight torque wrenches.


    The surest way to f'up the bolt installation is hog-down any one bolt to its full torque, then start on another one. Instead, each bolt needs to be torqued down in 2 or 3 steps, working in a cross-wise, diagonal pattern. Hard to know how much force you're putting into the threads cuz you're compressing a spring at the same time.
     


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    Eh, I see that now. Was reading on my phone, and did not realize that thebigtuna was the OP, and bike's owner.

    Anyway, cheers to finding an issue before it ruins a good engine!
     


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  7. thebigtuna

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    Right on I'll keep that in mind when I get a torque wrench to finish the job. Guess I'll just pick up a quality craftsman to match the rest of my tools. Question though, what size is the nut holding on the clutch basket? The largest I have is a 18mm and it's not even close to big enough. Got most of the metal shavings out of the clutch cover. Letting the friction plates soak in oil while I wait on the parts so I can just pop the new clutch basket in when it arrives.
     


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  8. OOTV

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    Memory says it's a 22mm but don't quote me on that. The Honda Field Service Manual however, says it uses 94 ft/lbs. of torque. If you do not have the Honda FSM, maybe someone can get that to you. My dropbox account got suspended for taking up too much bandwidth, so that's no longer an option for me. The latest 'pdf' version of the manual is about 44MB BTW.
     


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  9. thebigtuna

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    You are correct with the 22mm I believe. After much searching I found all the parts that compose the clutch and the nut was listed as 22mm. I just ordered a clutch tool to hold it in place which should help. Just need the socket and torque wrench and I'll be good to go. I really need to find a repair manual as I'm sure that will save me a lot of headache in the future
     


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    Here's a Dropbox link to the service manual:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/syf7mrjghcbchvb/VFR800-VTEC-2002.pdf?dl=0

    The clutch nut on my VTR1000 was a 30mm IIRC. You may need an impact gun or similar to loosen the nut.
     


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    Wow well done for finding the problem, hopefully no damage has been done.
     


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  12. thebigtuna

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    Thanks Cadbury! Do I really need an impact wrench or will a torque wrench and this tool work just fine? Screenshot_20160617-091950.jpg
     


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    Impact wrenches should only be used for loosening nuts/bolts. Torque wrenches for tightening only.
     


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    Oh okay thanks for clarifying! Been learning new things every day!
     


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    Also I went to try and even find a socket for the nut. All the sizes that might even be close were 12 point. Does that work on that hex nut? The impact socket if I have to invest in a impact driver only goes up to 24mm as the largest in the store. I'm kind of stuck on what to do to try and get that off
     


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    Although a 6 point is preferred and an impact wrench too, but a 12 point is usable but you have to be careful. I can say a long breaker bar would be a benefit if no impact wrench is available. I had an instance where I was helping a friend out with his Ducati Street Fighter. The single nut for the rear wheel was a 46mm and the hub side uses a 41mm (I could have that backwards) anyway, I was able to find a double sided socket (41mm on one side 46mm on the other) but was 12 point. Using the long breaker bar and ensuring the socket was sitting flush we were able to remove and install the nut. If I recall the torque value was in the mid 90 ft/lbs. range or close to 100 ft/lbs.

    That being said, you never answered my question as to where you were located. If you are in or near OC, myself or Scubalong are usually available to lend a hand, all for the low price of some IPA or a good meal! In a pinch, you can always rent tools from an auto parts supplier. i.e. O'Reilly's, Autozone, Pep Boys, Napa, etc.
     


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    Sorry I'm in central Missouri. Also I just got the clutch basket in from ebay and I'm kind of mad. I assume I should contact them and see what's up. Will this be as big of a problem as I think it would be? 20160618_110639.jpg
     


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    Holy cow....I'd be livid....
    Sorry, that sux. :(

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    Contact eBay ASAP, and dispute condition of item, they are generally very good about resolving issues, that item should have never been sold.
     


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  20. thebigtuna

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    I contact ebay or the sellers directly? They gave me a card saying if I was unsatisfied to talk to them directly. Email might be best so I have all of the records for if they were to not correct it. This part is pretty critical to fixing the clutch
     


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