What is your riding etiquette?

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  1. derstuka

    derstuka Lord of the Wankers Staff Member

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    Ok, some of you may live in San Diego, or SoCal, however, this happens pretty much all over the US, Canada, and probably overseas. I am just getting so frustrated by this generation of "racer wannabe riders" terrorizing the backroads. They know nothing of riding etiquette and courtesy when riding near riders, and cars. I have about 5000 examples in my head, however, here is one small one. A group of riders (maybe 10 or so) is racing up some backroad canyons, and when they come upon another rider, or car, they engage in extremely risky passing and maneuvers in order to get around other people on the road. For instance, this road is on a cliff/edge of a mtn, and these riders ride on the double lines to pass two cruisers with cars coming the opposite way. This totally upsets the rider in the lane turning a corner, and being caught off-guard, and not to mention the car coming the other way. Yes, I sometimes engage in doubleline passing, however it is where I know I do not jeopardize the safety of other people on the road. I could care less about some idiotic killing himself by flying off a cliff on his new GSXR 1k, as long as he hurts no one else in the process. I am talking about putting other people's lives at risk just because you cannot wait until a proper time to pass, and having courtesy and respect for other people on the road when they are just trying to get from one place to another safely. No, this is not an isolated incident, I see this EVERY single weekend I go out riding the backroads, everytime, more and more.

    I just get so fed up with the riding etiquette of new riders (yes, cage drivers are very bad at times as well), and riders in general these days. Racing up my neighborhood with a race duplex exhaust (or a straight pipe harley setting off the car alarms and rattling windows), loud enough to wake the dead. Improper passing, splitting lanes between fast moving traffic, the list goes on and on.

    I know some will say that is just a few bad apples, however, I will have to disagree, I do not think it is everybody, however, this now is affecting a growing number of riders. More idiotic behavior on bikes just trickles down to more laws being made against us. Why give people more reasons to hate us. Share the road, respect other riders and drivers on the road.

    Funny thing is, I find the most nicest (or helpful if you are in need) to be sport touring riders. GSXR, R1, ZX, and CBR riders just usually whiz on past me. :rant: :rant: :rant:
     


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    I hear what your say'n!!!...Tha same thing happening here in Texas...minus tha cliffs...I also see that a majority..."Not All"...of these riders that ride like that are in there late teens or early 20's...Hopefully over time they will grow up a little bit and start respecting tha road and fellow riders...It's these people that give sport bikers a BAD name....

    Keep da rubber to da ground...
     


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    I agree passing other riders at high pace on turns that you don't even know is just plain rude. If they freak out it could also get someone killed if they change their line from momentary shock. Good job passing the word to not ride like a jerk!

    I used to carry a spark plug in my jacket for asshole car windsheilds(never used it thankfully), but it could just as easily work on a sandal wearing jerkoff trying to kill you. A friend of mine once took a guys mirror off at a light for coming too close. That was interesting.

    Just cause they are on a bike does not make them your friend. Generally we are a community, but every community has folks that need a bit of discipline now and again. I also think the lanesplitting mentality of CA also gives the riders a bit more fast and loose attitude, but I could be wrong on that one.
     


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    derstuka Lord of the Wankers Staff Member

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    I think you might be right on that one, however, this new generation of riders sure does scare me in regards to the future of motorcycling. Take a jackass, add a fast sportbike, and whola! Instant Wayne Rainey of the street!
     


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    derstuka:

    Hate to say it, your post is so true. In Delaware, almost every sportbike rider and many crusier riders act like absolute morons on their machines. At least the ones I see on the road. Add the fact we have a pretty lax helmet law and maybe a third of the riders I see actually wear it on their head!? No matter what machine they are mounted on. And riding rear? What riding gear? Flip flops, shorts, t-Shirts and tank tops are standard protection in Delaware.

    If you've never been to Delaware, at least the southern part, we lack alot of curves. So the only skill these morons work on going fast in a straight line in busy beach traffic.

    Sad.

    I am not against riding at a brisk adult pace, BUT PICK THE APPROPRIATE TIME AND PLACE. I just read the post about the member who wreaked on the Dragon because of the trike accident and someone else posted that the Dragon has already taken some lives this year. I would love to ride the Dragon, but because of the morons who ride it at a skill they don't have, I'd rather do a track day.

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    well, I could be wrong but I think we might see it more out here due to the huge amount of riders we have. I think our riding population is easily double that of any other state so naturally we'll have more jerkoffs. They'll darwin themselves out, though. Funny thing about riding etiquette with other bikes, I actually slow down and pass other bikes slower than I do cages because I am afraid of scaring them if they are not ready on a bike. I actually did that to a cruiser once who I thought was moving over for me to go around and he was just weaving back and forth sight-seeing.
     


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    derstuka Lord of the Wankers Staff Member

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    The problem with Darwining themselves out, is that there is SOOOOOO many noobs in the pot to replace them that I see it as an ever growing problem. Sad but true....

    I actually frown upon riding the backroads because of these noob idiots, and the other ones who treat the street as Laguna Seca. I would just like to know how they will handle the situation at full lean around a blind corner coming up on a broken down car, debris in the road, slow moving RV, and so on. Just gives us all a bad name. Sigh, what can ya do..... :frown:
     
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    Derstuka, I think you will find lots of folks here will be in total agreement with all that you said.
    I live in northern California just 15 miles from "Alice's Restaurant" which is the hub of motorcycling in our area.
    I think you might be surprised as to how many idiot riders we have here.

    I don't think anybody has a love for speed greater than myself.
    Having said that. I managed to direct my speed addiction onto the tracks,
    in racing 250gp motorcycles (5 years), and sports car racing (10 years) BUT NOT ON THE STREET.

    If someone wants to play rickey-racer then they need to go on the track.
    As for loud pipes...they just reflect a juvenile attitude of "look at me, look at me".

    The bottom line of this poor behavior is that it reflects on all of us
    and could create more problems.
    So, if you want to go fast then go racing, or at least do track days or track schools.
     


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  9. derstuka

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    Very well said sir. You win the prize! :first:

    You have the right idea, take your racing to the racetrack!
     


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    Don't we call these idiots SQUIDS? I won't go blasting past a cager or poser because I don't know how they'll react. The posers are riding at their limit as it is. And those cagers are too busy yacking on a cell phone to see a bike blasting past. I think they are just trying to show off. I don't care if they crash being an idiot, just don't drag me (or another innocent bystander) into it. If they want to be stupid and rude, don't do it on the road and create another stereotype for all of us to have to overcome.
     


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    Your rant is justified, some of these nutters are riding road registered Superbikes that would have won GP's not all that long ago without the ability or respect these machines demand, the result of which brings down responsible motorcyclists in the eye's of the general public.

    Who hasn't been driving the family cage when a daredevil squid pulls off a bonehead overtaking manoeuver then having to convince one's spouse afterwards that riding is not dangerous ?

    Recieved the below link some weeks ago, wasn't going to post the link because I found it a little disturbing but it seems to illustrate this Threads meaning clearly.

    Warning:- the linked Video shows a GSXR rider with on board camera riding above his ability before sadly causing a head on with an oncoming motorcyclist. :frown:

    Motorcyclist Head On Link:
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e18_1182467236
     


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    DerGermanWWIIdivebomber:

    nice thread, I have the same frustration when I see a squid riding sidesaddle in the left lane of the 4 lane interstate at rush hour over 80mph.

    A month back a police cruise was chasing such a SQUID and rammed into the rear of a vehicle, sending into oncoming traffic with a fatality. The nightly news asked if "crotch rockets" should be banned. Unfortunately, most every cager that sees my Interceptor puts my bike in that class. The general public just can't differentiate between the squids riding a sport bike and someone on a VFR... they just see the bike, not the behavior.

    Is there anything that I (we?) can do to help encourage squids to not ruin our fun with their antics?
     


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    derstuka Lord of the Wankers Staff Member

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    You're the first one to pick that up....nice job doing your homework, or you might just be a plane nut and know your history. :biggrin:

    Your question is a valid one, and one that I unfortunately do not have the answer to. Everywhere you look, you see people stunting, doing crazy maneuvers on the streets, highways, parking lots...try and talking some sense into these jokers is like trying to get Paris Hilton to stop wearing designer clothes.

    I just am really frustrated at all of the negative publicity that they are causing. Most times when some non-motorcyclist finds out that I ride (they call them all crotch rockets), they say, are you one of those guys doing tricks on the freeway, and racing 100MPH passing cars on backroads.

    Another sad thing is that I do not think a lot of these jokers on the backroads are "squids" as we define the term, a lot are seasoned riders as well, who like to use to backroads as their racetrack, giving us all a bad name.
     


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    Yeah, I have seen that before. Double fatality. That gives me a weird feeling each time I watch it.

    You are right, they do no respect the bikes, nor do they respect the roads. A double edged sword for respectable motorcyclists.
     


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    Sounds a bit Nancy ?

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    I've never known Nanny, so I cannot answer. :wink:
     


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    My small town is full of guys riding 1k's and stunting and yada, yada, yada. Unfortunately they have an appeal in town, and newbie riders jump in with them and try and try to do all that they do. I work with a kid that just keeps trying to match everything that the Squidcrowd in town does and unfortunately for him "he's just too skeeered" or that is what they have told him about why he still has 1/2 inch chicken strips on his tire. I told him maybe it is just because he's just that smart! Maybe he should take his time and wait for his riding skills to catch up to his friends.
    But their attitude has unfortunatley infected him so bad he looked at me and just said that that depended on who you ask. I have tried and tried to teach him about safety and practicality and safety again, but soon he will find out the hard way and that just sucks for kids like him. People don't understand that their actions sometimes have really bad consequences, even if it doesn't directly affect them.

    Great post by the way!
     


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    :blah: Tell your friend if he wants to safely get rid of his "chicken strips" to get out some 60 grit sandpaper and rub the edges of his tire. That will get rid of the slick part ... but then again he could tell them he leans off his bike and doesn't need to lean the bike that far and this gives him an added edge to lean it if he needs it. Or he could just tell them to ......... and be his own man. :yield: :smash: :cool:
     


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    I got rid of the chicken strips by practicing.

    I went to a nice big parking lot, staked out a large figure 8, and practiced for about an hour. do that a couple of times, and you'll be scraping just about everything. ignore the squids. they can't do even that.:cool:
     


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    JamesInaCube: I thought the idea was to practise so I didn't scrape the bike up :wink: I must be practising wrong as my RWB is still shiny on the top part.
     


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