How fast have you gone on your VFR?

I think it's funny y'all are worried about "admitting" to how fast you've gone. Cops have better things to do than follow your posts on a forum lmao

 

Btw both of mine have been gps verified for the exact same reason you all describe as it being off.

 

In this month's Motor Cyclist magazine. They're talking about a 1986 model that made about 85 hp.

 

Oops! Upside down.

 

Arguing about top speed performance is meaningless without a timing slip. There are just too many variables to make a linear calculation of bike and horsepower. People get pissed when you question their high speed runs.

 

Soo.... If I have a GPS app on my phone that I'm reading while going that fast... That isn't enough evidence?

 

You are 100% correct on that. Peeps worry about such admissions being open for police to see. But there is no time for the police to be searching the net for such dribble unless they are investigating something a fuck of a lot more serious than speeding.

But beware. Private investigators working for lawyers and insurance companies have nothing else to do if what their client is paying them to dig up mud on you. Civil evidence gets admitted extremely more easily that criminal. So long as one is aware of that, then Bob's your uncle.

 

I just typed out a long and boring statement on evidence then realized you were talking about evidence to satisfy our kangaroo court and not real court. Not that there is a hell of a lot of difference these days. So the cancel button is my friend today.

 

I'm sure it's been said before, but anyone can go fast in a straight line.

That's said, 127 indicated. So far...

 

Well can you explain why GPS verified isn't accurate enough for the court? I was really responding to Big Jims statement that there's too many variables for a linear calculation of a bikes speed. :crazy:

 

Personally I have been around too many people bragging about going tremendous speeds to believe much of what I hear. I am a skeptic at heart. I don't believe how fast I have gone much less anyone else.

But, if you say you have gone 158 and you have GPS verification I am willing to "believe" in you.

By variables I mean that any speed over 80 or 90 starts causing the rear tire to slip against the road. The forces of friction and resistance that are trying to hold the bike back increase exponentially as speed increases. Any measure of forward progress, measured at the rear wheel becomes less and less accurate as speeds increase. This is also why high speed runs can devastate a marginal tire in short order.

 

its gone faster...
but my local STIG, told me that he ran out of "LASER FREE" zone and said the speedo was at 145ish...
so my clock is a little fast. must be the 180/55 rear?


But i myself am not nuts to do that kinda speed!!!

 

Guess I can tell the officer that pulls me over that there's no way he could tell how fast I was going with his radar gun... Because that's too complicated to figured out.. You know, too many variables and all.

 

In criminal court, the prosecutors have to prove every element of the offense. Failure to prove just one element and the judge must acquit.

So getting to the GPS or Cell phone doo dad or what the fuck ever kind of electronic device you may have, that the officer has a right to see, he must be able to prove many things pertaining to that including what vehicle was the gps on during the whole trip, who was driving at any given time, and if there is even a record of the date and time the GPS was activated. Does it record the name of the road? Does it record the location of the offense? In your jurisdiction, can the police look into the data stored in that device without a warrant? If not, what would his grounds be to get that warrant? Those are just a few things that "may" be an issue where you ride. They definitely are here.

I have never heard of a GPS being used in court for the purpose of speeding only evidence. GPS was not as good as it is now, before I retired. Back then they recorded nothing. Now if they were investigating something like a murder, serious armed robbery or something like that, I am sure police would pull out all stops to dig deep into the guts of your GPS and find what they can relating to the case they are investigating.

Does that help?

 

No I get what you're saying, and a little more detail than I wanted. But you definitely made your point. All I'm saying is, I've had my GPS app open on my bike while going these speeds and that's what the readout was. Short of buying a $$$$ pinpoint accuracy GPS or having someone radar me with a calibrated radar gun... I think I've done my due diligence and can quantify that I've been 145 on the old girl. Honestly I don't care how fast I've gone. I've been faster on my other bike. And to me, top speed isn't everything. I'd much rather show off my lack of chicken strips. I just don't like someone questioning me going that fast. The bike can do it, and I've done it.

 

Maybe I should just say I've had the bike at redline in 6th and whatever magical mph number is, that's where I was at

 

Not sure about your tire slipping at speeds over 80-90 mph. I know what your trying to get at but I think that is microscopic compared to the spedo's just being off. I have not seen an accurate one from the factory yet. We have run radar guns at the track many times. Want to see huge error? Start with an already off factory spedo, do a -1 +2 gearing change and have your CBR at 13k in 6th gear........ 186... not so much.

 

Evidence serves to prove the fact in demand. The darn problem is that there is a whole shitlload of evidence types.

So far only two guys here to my recollection have posted up timing slips of any kind. Sent from my laptop whilst sitting on my mach 1 91, making the appropriate vroom-vroom sounds.

Randy probably nailed it as far as LEOs go. IMO insurers may have a different take on who is fast and who is half fast.

Gator nailed it too. Take it to the track!

Working racetracks have stats on track records in various classes of bikes according usually to displacement. Go oot for a lap or two and compare "your" time with the track record.. An enlightening experience..

 

Lets put BB on Bike with the bike rigged to run wide open and see how fast it goes into a brick Wall or two:bug: That will settle how fas it goes once and for all! My speedo is off 8mph because of the extra 2 teeth in back.:rip:

 

I feel....oh....I don't know....enlightened? Or cheated out of time from that last post.