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08 VFR 800 Bike wont turn over

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  1. AWP34

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    Hi VFR's while on my ride today. My buddy thought the kickstand was down on my bike and slowly layed down my bike on the left side. No damage cosmetically as I jumped in to break the momentum of the bike falling on it's side.

    Here's the issue. The bike started with some delay Rode a bit and after a while it just cut out. Now my bike won't turn over. I thought it was because of the battery but AAA brought out a battery booster and still no power.

    Lights go on. Instrument panel lights up.

    I have read on other threads to check the blue connector. It could be the stator or the rectifier. I will look into that. Not really sure what could be causing the issue.


    If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it.
     


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  2. NormK

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    Knocked the kill switch
     


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    Where is the kill switch located? How to I re-enable it? Thank you for your time
     


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  4. NormK

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    Right hand twist grip, red switch, easy to knock when you drop a bike
     


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    What the fix?
     


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    Its a switch. Just flip it the opposite direction.

    I'm drawing a blank here (someone help) but what's that other thing? Angle sensor or something like that?
     


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  7. NormK

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    I believe there is a tip over switch somewhere, that is probably it
     


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    If there is any suggestions on where to locate this switch. I would greatly appreciate it. I would love to get my bike up and running ASAP. Thank you for your time and help.
     


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    Hmm

    I am not sure if this helps but just in case you have not tried it already, I would start by flipping the red kill switch button(= ESS Engine Stop Switch) to the off position and then flipping it back firmly to the run position. It is easy to be knocked if the bike takes a spill and may not be properly re-seated.

    If that does not solve the problem, try and identify what is and is not working - it helps us to know what is happening when you turn the ignition key to the on position - for instance the instruments panel display and lights should run through their normal starting routine and you should clearly hear the fuel pump priming. If you cannot hear the fuel pump, then check the Bank Angle Sensor and Fuel Cut Relay are working OK and properly seated in their mountings - they can get jarred out of their seating during a tip over.

    This diagram should allow you to locate where the various sensors are located..

    http://www.lifford-cooke.com/motorbiking/documents/VFR%20VTEC%20PGM-FI%20Diagram%202002.pdf

    Good luck let us know how you get on.


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    Just my two cents but may be a little help below. Also, not to say you are dumb or anything (HaHa) but you DO have the bike in NEUTRAL when trying to start and the kill switch ON as they say above, correct? Please do NOT ask me how I do or do not know about having in neutral or not? (I really do not know what I was thinking that day)

    http://vfrworld.com/forums/showthread.php/46021-Tip-over-sensor-2003-VFR-800
     


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    If the clutch switch is working properly, it does not need to be in neutral (but the kickstand does have to be up). That reminds me, don't forget to check the kickstand switch.

    AWP34, it would be helpful to the rest of us if you would confirm that you already know what a kill switch is on a motorcycle...they all have one right next to the throttle. I, personally never use mine, I just use the key. But if you, your friend that dropped it, and the AAA person all didn't know about the big red kill switch on the right handlebar, then something is wrong in the world!
     


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    Red Kill Swtich Button was identified during time of isse

    Hi Dave,

    You can rest assured that we were all able to locate the switch at time of dreaded breakdown. Upon selecting the RED switch normally I hear a sound of engagement. I then select the start button and the bike will not turn over. It just sputters. The instrument panel along with the lights all have power. I see the F1 light flicker as I am attempting to start it.

    I have put it on the battery tender to eliminate charge out of the equation and will attempt to trouble shoot once I get home.

    Your suggestions and support are greatly appreciated.
     


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    I'm not sure why "Upon selecting the red switch normally I hear a sound of engagement" I don't know why the kill switch would do this?
     


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    Here's the starter diagram from the manual.

    If you're in neutral then the clutch switch and sidestand switch are irrelevant.

    If the 30A main fuse is toast, then you would have no lights so that must be OK. That would leave the kill switch, the starter button or the 10A fuse as the possible culprits, assuming the wiring is fine. I can't see that the bank angle sensor would play any part in this (but I think it would shut the engine down when it tipped over).

    Your latest comment about "sputters" needs some clarification. Does the engine turn over but not start? Or does the engine not turn over at all in which case the sputtering sound might be something like the starter solenoid being jammed. Can you hear the fuel pump priming?
     


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    Hey Cadbury,

    Thank you so much for helping me with this. I press the starter but the bike does not turn over. When I select the Red switch I do not hear the fuel pump priming as I once did.
     


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    Ok so now we have a bit more info to work with, I'm not sure what the red switch is about so I'll not bother with that. Put the bike up on the center stand, bike in neutral and with a piece of insulated wire jump across the solonoid terminals, only briefly and see if it pulls in the starter. If the starter clunks in that is all we need to know, gets one problem out of the way, then let us know
     


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    Check your fuses!


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    Wow its 9am here and its finally stopped raining and time to take the VFR for a run, and it seems that on this topic things have also moved on overnight.

    So we have the instruments running through their normal start up routine (and no weird blinking from the FI light?) but you cannot hear the sound of the fuel pump priming. Which very much suggests the starting problem is actually down to a lack of fuel (or perhaps the HISS immobiliser is playing up if your bike has the HISS system fitted?). Assuming it is because the fuel pump is not getting power - first step is to locate and check the fuel pump fuse is not blown.



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    I also don't believe it is cranking, so back to the solonoid
     


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    On my very first time riding my vfr home from work I dropped it getting it off the centre stand.
    The engine stopped when it hit the floor.Got it back upright and she wouldn't start. Not turning over but lights and dash on.
    I switched ignition off flicked the kill switch off then on ,and she fired right up.Lad at work said it was the tilt switch stopping it starting.
     


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