Dynojet power commander V for a 99 VFR

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    I have a Power Commander power V for my 99 VFR. Well its in the box of goodies when I bought the bike. I asked the PO if it is correct for the bike since the box states for a Honda VFR 800 VTEC. I attempted to contact Power commander but they are closed today.

    The part number is 20-9422. IS this even the right one for my bike? The unit is brand new and still in the box.

    Also this is my first VFR. How do I remove the seat/??? Dumb question but I do not want to break anything. I have a new Sargent seat to put on the bike.
     


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    Turn helmet lock on left side with your key. Pull down on small lever below it and pull the seat backwards from the seat rear. Nice bike too.
     


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    Thanks! Right after I posted I found it on google. Sargent seat is very comfy. 20150614_122641.jpg 20150614_122641.jpg
     


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    Hi I recently found out about this and it should work fine but before anything else check that it plugs into your ecu harness. Then download a correct map for it. Current map is for vtec model and thus wrong. After you can have it tuned somewhere. But remember i don't know this for a fact, just read someone did it :eagerness: Have fun i also have a 99!
     


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    Note that there is no off the shelf map for the 5 Gen that you can load into the PCV. You need to convert a PC3 map into a PCV format file. Unfortunately, Dyno Jet doesn't have these available and their support for the PCV is strictly for the 2002+ VTEC models. At least the last time I checked.

    I have a PCV I want to eventually install in my 5 Gen but no default or baseline map for it. I tried with an earlier version of their software to do a PC3 file conversion but didn't have luck at the time. From what I understand, there are settings in the PC3 that are not available in the PCV and you must remove these before you can do the conversion. I haven't tried that yet but sounds like something to look into.

    Also, my recollection is that there is a file over at VFRDiscussion that someone did file for a 5 Gen in the PCV format but I haven't checked in a while, low priority at the moment. Maybe take a peek over in the download section.
     


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    Hi, I have just gone through this painful routine. I will iterate the problems and solutions here. My mechanic installed the PCV last September. He swore himself to sleep. The cable is barely long enough for the 5th gen so he had to get creative with weaving it around in order to maintain length and strain relief. Then, he had the same conversion bug you mentioned. So he installed the PCV map for a 2002-2006 Erion slip on. I rode the bike all season. I am a novice so I was not sure if I would be in tune with potential problems. I was concerned of it being too rich. I was more concerned with topping off my tank to keep it full and thus could not track the mileage to give me any gauge of fueling accuracy. So, here is what I did recently to load an appropriate map, which failed big time, but I identified the issues.

    1) Download a PCIII map closest to your hardware.

    2) In the PCV software perform a conversion of this map
    * The problem, that you mentioned, this map shows an IGNITION TIMING section. That part of the file is the trouble, so just proceed to #3.

    3) Select all, and copy the data to the Windows clipboard

    4) Open a native PCV map, for example download the zero map for a 6th generation

    5) With the zero map open, PASTE the results from the Windows clipboard. Compare the converted map to the new map, checking some values in the top and bottom rows and left and right columns to see that the data copied into the exact same place.

    6) Press CTRL-N or select VIEW / SHOW NOTES. Edit the notes at the bottom where it shows "zero map". As an example, add the information from the PCIII map from which you got the data:
    ex) "M101-303 Converted to PCV, Erion Slip on, stock or aftermarket air filter."

    7) Save the map to the hard drive.

    8) Press SEND MAP to send it to the bike

    9) Experience new problem. These PCIII maps were lean in key areas. I am guessing that the PCIII and PCV work differently so the data does not translate correctly. Why do I say this? Read on:

    * I tried a PCIII map for an Erion slip on (I have a Two Brothers). It was lean in some key areas. At 3500 rpm the engine sputtered. There was another spot, I cannot recall, 5,000 or 6,000 where the same thing happened.

    * I changed maps to the PCIII map for a STOCK 19999 VFR. There were still sputtering problems such as at 3500 RPM.

    * I reload the map my mechanic used out of desperation, the PCV file for 2002-2006 Erion slip on. POOF the bike ran fantastic again.

    I went through this exercise because I figured if this map is too rich from the wrong map than gas is dissolving the cylinder oil. The oil level is exactly the same as after the change last year, but it really should be examined. At the end of season we will examine the oil for sights and sounds.

    I am debating installing an O2 bung and the Wide Band 2. I am torn. This is a particularly poor value, very expensive for incremental gains. On the other hand it seems that everyone with the 5th generation needs a reference setup. I would love to contribute such to the community.

    I am unable to find an appropriate map in the map section of VFRDISCUSSION.COM, however there is a guy there with a 1998 and Autotune, including maps for each gear. I need to message him and see if he will provide his map, then we would be all set.
     
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