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Ahh the super charger. That was so cool to see kick in. Post the photos if you can John451? I would like to see them. And your right about the MM movies I forgot about the first one. Had that saw moment to it where he had to cut his leg off before the car blowup.

I know that .gov regulations will not work and even the appearance of it working will be a work of fiction. But I am jaded. I think a public investigation into the gouging or another election is what is needed. My fearless democritter leaders have been in office for a while now and what have they done with their time? Signed 2 gun control laws and a compromise on immigration. They couldn't have wasted more time if they were finding a way to ban certain kinds of toilet paper. I have sent emails and written letters and got nothing but boiler plate letters back or nothing at all. This system of grassroots works don't get me wrong but these guys are ignoring me. Thank goodness its summer time and I will be riding my bike more.

 

Who Killed the Electric Car? Same people that made hybrids ghey? Seeing smug jerks riding around in it with rainbow stickers all over the back.

 

In Norway where we have plenty of oilrigs and refinerys the price for one litre of Petrol(95 octane) is currently NOK 12,2, or $7,46 per US gallon.
So, no complaints from you guys, thanks..

 

See if I can dig them up, last time I saw them was in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard'." :smile:

 

The supercharger: of you absolutely have to burn up 20 gallons of gas in 10 seconds... except no substitute. I personally want a turbo for my bike/truck/lawnmower.

 

OK after ready this thread, man is everyone hot and bothered or what. A couple of thoughts: Yes gas has gone up a lot but it is still a relatively small part of the cost of a vehicle. Last year the gas cost for my van was $2400 but the total running cost was over $10,000 (including depreciation the real big cost) so spending $500 extra a year on gas is not really a big part of the equation. Also I agree with earlier comments about it being a matter of choices be it that you want to have a lot of kids so need a big vehicle or just want a honking great suv for the intimidation/I'm rich factor.

A last thought the oil companies, to a large extent, are owned by you and me through our investments, mutual funds, banks, insurance companies etc. so although we pay more for gas we get some of it back through those investments. And yes I fully realise that the poor do not get these same benefits and are probably the worst affected by the rapid rise in gas prices but unfortunately that seems to be the case for most of these types of issues. I wish I had a solution but I don't.

 

Nowdays it is possable to engage and disengage a supercharger like that...except the only ones you could really do it with is a centrifical. All you would really need to do is adapt the mechanism from either an AC compressor or an onboard Air compressor to said supercharger. Got thinking about this when i was working in the service truck on wed...It has a set up that you have to apply the ebrake and flip a toggle switch to engage the engine driven compressor. however i suspect one could replace the ebrake switch with a toggle to beable to engage the set up at will.

 

Remember Toyota had a couple of cars in the '80's and early '90s like the Levin GTZ which had an engaging supercharger but I'm not sure of the blowers design type or how the manifold plumbing was routed and controlled.

 

I don't have any stocks. I guess I'm getting screwed.

 

but even when it was $2 a gallon, you had to have known it would go up?
maybe not by how much or how quick, but that it would continue to rise?

The law tractor comment was a joke, hence the smiley face after it
but I have seen them in the stores and stuff
wouldn't trust it to a Maine winter though

but you do have a choice now of where you live, no?
meaning small scale of a road that gets plowed more often/better
to larger scale
it may not be an appealing choice, and it may not be worth it to you for the benefits, but it is a choice

There are things I don't like about where I live as well, but then it is a choice I make. I hate our silly expensive it is here, but I am willing to accept, well not really accept as deal with it, for the benefits. But still everyonce in a while I see a house elsewhere, and go "geez, I could buy that house outright with the equity I have in my house... No mortgage would mean some pretty cheap living..."

 

OK, now there is actual proof that we / the consumer are being screwed royaly by the " OIL companies".. Yesterday morning on the world news the first quarter reports for 2007 of the oil companies were listed..

Exxon was the highest with only a profit of $ 6.4 Billion for the first quarter of 2007. The lowest profit was just $4.2 Billion. Hmmm 3 months and $4.2 Billion profit . The representative of an oil company even stated on camera that the cost to refine the oil has not went up , but stayed the same...

The oil companies get richer as we empty our wallets to drive to work and try to get by.. I shelled out $125 for gas last week...

 

So that proves that they are ripping us off. But did they say what was going to be done about all of it?
The taxes are the biggest part of a gallon of gas.

 

You got that right. Up here tax is over 50% of the cost of a gallon of gas, you have fed. tax and state tax, I think they also put an import tax or some crap on it too.
If the oil companies raise thier price the taxes also go up because they are based on a % of the original fuel price.

 

and for those that admit that they bought it for ego reasons, or purely asthetic reasons, that is fine; but accept what you have done, and the potential for fiscal pain
don't by a land yacht, and then complain about the price of gas; that just doesn't make sense
got a friend with a Yukon, was single when he bought it, now married, no kids, two small dogs
every time gas goes up a bit, he whines about it
shut up, look what you drive
hates when I give him sh*t about it
but he doesn't need that truck, at all
he may want it
but he doesn't come close to needing it
another friend, who has a couple of 911s and Defender D90s
gas goes up, and not a peep
when people ask, he just says "I knew what I was buying"
and having driven them, let me say that the D90s just absolutedly suck down HUGE amounts of gas, just staggering really
but he bouht them because he thought they looked cool (they do)
he takes them off roading, which few owners do, but that isn't the reason he bought them
it does maybe occassionally make it easier to reach the ski place in Tahoe, but that isn't why he bought them either (he knows full well I have never not been able to make it because of what I drive)
he bought them because he likes them, and that is fine
I would rather he not, but it is a free country
he bought what he wanted, and he deals with it

 

Here’s my 2 cents. A lot of people are complaining about the price of gas these days I know I’m one of them, but I’m sure there is not one entity or reason to blame.

I know refinery production is capped due to lack of capacity. (Lack of refineries) We could always use more oil production also. And it’s hard to get the legislation through that would allow for increases in production or refinery capacity.

Here are some facts not many people know. This is a link to a chart that tells who is the top world oil producers, exporters, consumers, and importers. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922041.html

One fact I am sure of is this: If as consumers cut there fuel usage in any substantial amount, the government whether local or federal would raise taxes to make up for the short-fall quicker than you can say (“what’s up!”)

John

 

who says they are ripping us off then?
If you are seemingly so gung ho on the free market
in a free market they can charge what they want, and we are free to pay it or not pay it
no? isn't that the definition of a free market?
as long as people will pay $x for a gallon, that is what it will go for
if people pulled back, prices would go down (within reason) to attract buyers
instead demand continues to go up and up, and the earth isn't really making any more of the stuff
there has been no evidence that the oil companies are somehow acting in collusion to stiffle competition
heck it seems from my travels at least, like we have a more competative market than anywhere else in the world
I have never seen, in any other country, a 4 road intersection, with a different gas station on each corner

 

Look at what you are saying a couple 911's and Defender D90's? No wonder he doesn't complain he obviously has some pretty deep pockets. I checked my acount and I've got about $100 in the savings and a couple hundred in the checking and more bills to pay. I'm sure he doesn't live week to week like me and millions of other regular people out there. When I bought my truck I knew that the price of gas would go up but I didn't excpect it to skyrocket.

 

Hey guys,

I suggest you all get ready for gas prices to stabilize near $6/GAL as they have in Europe for the last 25 years. I was there in 84 gas was $1.59/liter USD in Norway and UK. Prices there are still that today. Bitch about the oil companies all you want. it is they who kept gas prices artificially low in the US up until now . We have so many cars, we consumed so much they could still make a profit. Now with the increase in world wide demand they can't keep the price down anymore . emerging economies of the far east China and India (2.5billion people) want more. We started it, they are going to finish it. the free market will rule. so buy more bikes (Motorbikes). the US is too big for mass transit to work. one of you rocket scientists needs to invent teleporter devices. Cuz here in the US we're screwed. bitching and finger pointing won't help. We are the blame with our addiction to gas fomented by oil companies in the name of profits. I am going to go for a ride on the VFR while I still can afford to., bye bye
My 2 cents

 

Gasoline has and always will be a regressive cost, meaning the majority of people like us (who aren't rolling in $$) are the ones that get screwed the most. A person who owns a couple 911s could probably give a rats ass if gas goes to $10 bucks a gallon. You hit it on the head Jaymz.

 

when I buy my next truck if I can afford it I'm going to buy a diesel and hope that Bio-diesel production picks up. Not only do they put out more power mated with a 6-speed manual one can get 20mpg or more. upkeep is a little more but I work for a dealership and can get parts for a discount and I do all my own service work. I've also seen diesels that last for 400-500k and more.

Placerville KG I just wish someone would understand what it's like to be the "little guy"