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How to change chain and sprockets?

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  1. mofo

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    I need your help again, looked through a few pages and didn't find what I'm looking for.
    Can some one shine some light on step by step instructions on what I need to do to replace the sprockets? I.E. Does the rear wheel need to come off? What do I need to do to change the front one? etc.
    2004 800A
    If there are pictures and/or video even better. Thanks in advanced.
    Jerry
     


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    From Honda service manual: VFR Manual 10-4.jpg VFR Manual 10-10.jpg VFR Manual 10-11.jpg

    Rear sprocket can be removed w/o wheel removal. Straight forward bolt off/ on.

    Youtube video, this is for a 5th gen but should be similar: chain and sprockets.mp4
     


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    It is really more intimidating than what it is in practice. I watched it being done once, then the next time, followed step by step instructions on the service manual. I personally do not buy into changing chain without changing both front and rear sprockets but many do. Your call on that. Just make sure you clean things around the front sprocket well seeing as you have it apart. Take your time.
     


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    Mofo, I do have the service manual if you want a copy.
     


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    You'll need a proppa ($$) tool for installing end link and peening the pins.
     


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    no you don't. The 10 dollar chain breaker from Harbor Freight works as a decent flaring tool if set up a certain way. For breaking chains I actually just bust out a cutoff wheel on a angle grinder and cut a link in half
     


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    Thank you again fellas. Hope amazon delivers as promised so I can replace them Tuesday. Garage party at my place, plenty of booze and food.
     


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    The cheap chain tools on eBay work fine. Try and Get the one that looks like a DID tool. It's a fairly straight forward process. It's about a 45 min event. The most time consuming part of the job is cleaning out the gunk built up in the area around the front sprocket. You don't need to remove the rear wheel.

    Take the front sprocket cover off, pull out the speedo sensor, whith the bike in gear break the rear sprocket nuts loose or if its on the center stand you can break the nuts lose with the wheel on the ground. Break the front sprocket nut loose. Use your chain adjustment tool to back off all the tension on the chain. Now break chain. Pull all that old shit off. Clean gunk, replace front sprocket, replace rear sprocket, then replace the chain peen pins and adjust the tension. Off you go.
     


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    Thanks BP. I'll be using my friend's chain tool.
     


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    Careful not to press too far on the link's side plate when installing or link will bind.
     


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    Either, the guy on the video is a liar, or he has a vast experience changing chains and sprockets. Took me a lot -and I mean a lot- longer to change mine yesterday. Spent a lot of time cleaning the old chain wax on the clutch cover, chain guide and chain guard. Layers and layers of caked up wax, grease and 40k miles of accumulated sand and brake dust on the swing arm. Looks good now.

    I think I got cheated by amazon. Thought I ordered an "x" ring, but I ended up with another "o" ring chain.
    Pushing the old pin out and installing the new one in was a real challenge. All due in part to my inexperience using the tools or using them right. happy with the results for being the first time I change a chain.
    Took it for a spin today and came back to re-adjust the chain as I felt it was a little tight. Will have to see how it feels on my next ride.
    Thanks all for your help.
    Life is good.
     


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    Cool beans Mofo. Glad it worked out for ya. Yeah the first time pressing the plates and such can be sucky. Glad you powered through it.

    And I quote "The most time consuming part of the job is cleaning out the gunk built up in the area around the front sprocket"

    Good thing this isn't a yearly thing tho...eh? Hahahaha.
     


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    The first time doing a job like that is going to take longer than at first thought. This does not apply in all things. I remember my first time (sort of). It was over in seconds

    The upshot was I got seconds then thirds..
     


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    Ya! Right! And pigs fly! Then maybe you were with a cheap hooker from Downtown Eastside and business was slow.
     


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    I can relate to that. I have pnly personally changed mine once and it took a while.

    I seem to be missing something here. When I ordered my chain, it came with the exact number of links for my bike and I did not have to remove any pins at all. Just position the plates, lube the link with the supplied greese and put in the new pins and press them accordingly. Maybe it depends on where you order from as to thelength of the chain.

    You really don't want that chain too tight. Check the manual that showes you how to properly set the adjustment. ANd good job. Next time it will be a breeze for you. For me too.

    A word of advice from the wiser when it comes to chaining your oil. DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN THE OIL DRAIN PLUG! That mistake was a tad expensive. So I hear.
     


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    I wish they could all be California girls. This one was actually a Canadian mountee..
     


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    "I seem to be missing something here. When I ordered my chain, it came with the exact number of links for my bike and I did not have to remove any pins at all. Just position the plates, lube the link with the supplied greese and put in the new pins and press them accordingly. Maybe it depends on where you order from as to thelength of the chain."
    I meant that I had a hard time pushing the pins out in the old chain. I didn't have a grinder, otherwise it would have been a breeze.
    The new chain was the correct length, pressing the new plate together and riveting it was a pain.
     


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    OK. I see now. I'm not thick am I? Sometimes things get lost int he translation from Americanese to Canadianese.
     


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    All I have to say is...........lmao.
     


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    Nah, you're fine. Add the fact that English is my second language and that I'm a self-thought English writer and ALL gets lost in translation.
     


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