Wax on wax.......

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    Pledge is just a product that has it's uses. The only really bad thing about it is the silicones. For furniture it's fine. Even then if the furniture is to be refinished or painted , the paint dude if he or she knows about it knows how to fix it. I would just turn the work down.

    Pledge on tires? Maygbe maybe not.. Not on my tires anyway.

    Boeshield has been around for years. Good stuff! Lots of aircraft type products in the Seattle area. The founder of Gerbings was a sub-contractor doing biz with Boeing. Generally anything to do wiith aircraft has very strict regs.. Including powdercoating by large shops...LOL.

    Give the "100% Carnauba" thing on the can a careful read. If what was in the can was 100% Carnauba it would take not only your pocket knife to remove and probably a cold chisel and one of those HD Torguehammers to get it off.
     


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    I use Mothers once a month then use the wax spray I get at Honda...black and pink can....use the spray on my shield every ride and works wounders when hit by low flying aircrafts

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    Those wee winged beasties can be removed with a slurry of bicarb and water.
     


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    Original has a MSDS lookup on their main site. The regs have changed and some of the fractions are no longer listed. In this case the basic solvents and aliphatics are listed along with telling folks that it ain't real smart to spray the stuff on a hot engine or up your nose.

    Getting those solvents ect., on rubber may not be the best thing. Not a clue about silicone fraction but the best place to look is on the can itself. Many times outfits that make products that have really complex chemical structures with terms that are almost as long as Encyclopedia Britannica, will add a couple of mollycules of something that smells great and call the stuff by one of those "A rose is a rose" handles.

    Hey, it keeps the English Majors employed, so it's not all bad.
     


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    About the same time some dude hocked a lunger on that offensive tackle for the Chicago Bears in a beer joint.;)
     


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    I'll see whats listed on the can when I get home tonight. Though as you said Billy it might be very convoluted as to what the heck they are listing. I have a feeling its probably very similar to Pledge. lol But it does seem to last quite a while and bugs do not stick. The real test of any wax starts soon here in Fl, love bug season is around the corner. Their digestive system must be the acid in the Aliens blood, shit is nasty.
     


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    For those who are not familiar with love bugs, the kind here are not from Disney, in Orlando.

    Lived in Houston for years.. SObugShit. Ride an hour and clean for two.. Didn't have the VFR then, Bet cleaning those headers is fun.. YIKES!
     


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    The best solutions are often the simplist... don't need to go so fancy if you're not really showing off the bike right?
     


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    Hahahaha...OK Billy
     


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    Not entirely true but plausible. I was the Marlboro Man that was coughing up shit just short of blood when I finally got wise that those smokes were really going to kill me.

    It can be done.. The downside is having to listen to the ex-smokers who think they have seen God and have become worse than harleydoods preaching BS. Show me one of those and let me light up a fine cigar or some aromatic pipe tobacco and I will show you somebody who is the perfect example of a Pavlovian drooler.
     


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    So I looked at the can of Original last night and they do not list the ingredients. Looked all over their web site and the only thing you can find is on the materials safety sheet which is of no help. Works great though. Still could be scented Pledge. lol
     


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    The big boys lobby had the rules changed on MSDS. The drill was that they would be giving out proprietary info on their products, patented or not. A couple of empirical tests will evidence the presence of silicones. At least the MSDS prevents dudes from incinerating themselves or finding chemical nasal nirvana.

    This first one is just kind of OK.. Apply some of the stuff on a non-porous surface. Let it dry a slosh some water on it. The water will bead up. The actual wax content is also a factor making the test not all that good.

    The second one is to apply the stuff on a non-porous surface, allow drying and then give it a couple of passes of almost any rattlecan paint. The paint will fisheye. For real evidence, A third test is best.

    Apply the stuff on a non-porous surface and allow drying. Wipe the surface down and then hit it with some rattlecan paint. If if fishyes three are silicones present.

    The main problem is that the vapors become airborne and the little mollycules get on everything.


    I think maybe the harleydoods use Pledge because their mom's used it... This may lead to discovering that many harleydoods are mammas boys scientifically speaking.

    There are fixes for paints in bulk but once an area is contaminated there ain't no more fixing.


    No HD "pledge" yet... I am still looking..
     


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    So if the paint is impregnated with silicons and you need to repaint it what can you do?
     


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    It'll be a cold day in hell before I slap pledge on any of my vehicles. I can't get it through my thick skull that a lemony scented furniture polish is good for my paint.

    That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
     


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    Pledge also comes in orange scent. ;)
     


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    Don't use lemon or orange. It attracts Bees.
     


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    I like nu finish its comes in a orange bottle and its very easy to use!
     


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    Strangely the fix is added silicone. Impregnatioon suggests penetration so if ya can fix it you're not totally fucked..

    Here's a bunch of fisheye eliminators. On bikes IMO the specific stuff is best. Fisheye can occur in both waterbourne and alkyd housepaint types too.. A little goes a ways and is cheap insurance.

    Some of those added scents are manufactured chemical compounds. Pages of that on a search engine. Some products use the actual scented oils from the peels. Yep, all kinds of bugs and around here, yelloiwjackets who will hang out until they figure our whatever it is that bugs think aboot.

    This may have again, some influence on harleydoods who are known phobics. ;)

    https://www.google.com/search?sourc...gs_l=hp..1.0l2.0.0.0.12484...........0.&pbx=1
     


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    So could the fisheye be corrected with proper prep work? Sanding, cleaning etc. maybe it's an issue with taking shortcuts.
     


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