Adding TCS to a 2010

Can a 2010 receive a software upgrade to add the Traction Control function, and/or the engine mapping tweaks?
Local dealer has a 2010 with <5k miles for $9750. I wouldn't consider TCS a make/break item, but was wondering if I could have them upgrade the software to include this function? I'm assuming no additional hardware, that it's strictly a programming routine.
thanks
Ed

 

For nearly $10K, I would consider a new 2014 with engineered system built in.

Oops, did you mean a 1200? (Other thread)

 

at 10k not worth it. brand new with 6kms is 10k

 

I would expect final price less than asking.
What's a 6kms?

 

6kms is 6 kilometers (about 5970 yards)

 

I originally posted "<5k miles for $9750" and you replied with "at 10k not worth it. brand new with 6kms is 10k"

I guess you can understand why your post was confusing?

I'm still confused. How can it be brand new and yet have 6km on it?

 

As I attempt to look again, I guess you think that $10k for a left-over 2010 that's been on a test-ride or two is OK? I wasn't explicit with original post, but this dealer is asking $9750, so get that down to $9k, and with new tires, that seems comparable.
There's dozens of VFR1200 within 250 miles on CycleTrader, but I don't see any dealer with any significant discount, most are still showing MSRP. Even 2010's, the best price I see is $11,600, one is even listing $13,400.
Is a left-over 2010 for $10k possible with these dealers?
All the 2013's I see are MSRP. How low might they go?

To my original question, I guess a Bazzaz Z-Fi TC for $750 could get me Traction Control AND different mapping for 1st and 2nd gear?

thanks
Ed

 

you need to add the bazzaz z bomb for an extra $65 to fix 1st and 2nd gear......does anyone really have a problem with spinning the rear tire out of corners ??? i ride pretty hard and ive only smoked the back tire once out of a turn...and if it did do it, i wouldn't want to make it stop....i wish it did...rain is another story, but a little throttle control can save $750....i do regret not getting the quick shift with my Zfi

 

I will elaborate and try to keep it beer friendly.

Between 3 and 10kilometers on the odometer is considered brand new in Canada for a bike. This is the manufacturers testing and the required PDI of the dealer requires a road test (or is supposed to). I have found bikes still in the crate for $10,000.00 some as new as 2012. Dealers just have to think that it wont sell for MSRP and they start coming down. Especially if you flip out the cheque book. There are even rwb 2007 bikes still up for grabs out there.

Bow your first question was if the bike could take a software update to include the new traction control. I wont say no, because thats for the honda engineers to say. However if the bike doesnt have abs then I would bet on no. The abs rings on the wheels tell the ecu how fast each wheel is going and it can then decide if it needs to cut power or to add brakes. So ask the dealer or call honda direct and ask them to answer your question.

Now fyi:

The 2014 canadian edition (top of the three models for the usa, canada only gets one) plus a full set of givi bags and the mounts is just under 18,000.00,
It comes with everything you want plus you can get great givi bags for 8k more. . . . .this would be worth it in my thoughts. But that is my opinion, and thankfully my wife's too.

 

Can the dealer add TC to the 2010 model with a re-flash, interesting question. My dealer says no here in the US or anywhere else as far as his Honda rep knows. A lot of guys in England seem to have had re-flashes from dealers to correct some of the FI issues on the first year bike but no one here in the US I have seen has reported getting a re-flash from a dealer for any reason. Most if not all of the fueling and power restriction problems with the VFR 12 can now be or will be resolved shortly with a re-flash from Don Guhl performance. I have a Gugl re-flashed ECU on my 2013 F model which has resolved the 1st, 2nd & 6th gear power restrictions, removed the top speed limiter and reset the coolant fan temp setting from 223 F to 203F. Guhl has already moved on to incorporate fuel mapping into his re-flash service which should as he builds a library of fuel maps cover almost all common applications. Price for a re-flashed ECU is $375 which covers next day return in the US. This re-flash covers both the F & DCT model for the removal of the power restrictions and will shortly apply to both models for fuel mapping as well.

 

Anything can be done if u throw enough money at it. Question is if its cost effective. I would think not
As dynajohn says a reflash from Don Guhl seems to be the best bet for fixing most of the short coming u will
find in the 2010 model

 

$375 for a Guhl re-flash is a lot less money than a Bazzaz fuel controller with TC. If TC is a make or break feature then the Bazzaz is the only answer for you. My guess is if you have to pay someone to install it it will cost you around $700 to $800 and all the ECU restrictions will still be there so you will need to buy the $65 Bazzaz zbomb as well if you want to remove the 1st & 2nd gear power restriction. Guhl can now provide a fuel re-flash for stock F & DCT models. He will be able to provide fuel maps for non stock VFR 1200's as he builds a library of fuel maps in the coming months as well. So what are the advantages of getting the stock ECU re-flashed by Guhl.
1. remove the stock ECU power restrictions in 1st, 2nd & 6th gear.
2. remove the 148 MPH speed limiter in the stock ECU.
3. reset the radiator fan on temp from 223 F to 203 F (bike runs cooler in stop & go city traffic.
4. removes the alarm code if you remove the stock muffler secondary actuator.
5. increase the rpm limiter 500 rpm (optional)
6. currently if you have a stock F or DCT model Guhl can provide a new fuel map which is particularly necessary on the 2010/2011 models.
7. finally price. You will pay far more than the Guhl $375 ECU re-flash cost for a Bazzaz fuel controller with TC, a Bazzaz zbomb to remove the 1st & 2nd gear restriction and you will still not get rid of the 6th gear restriction or get the other features Guhl offers for $375. Your choice