biker gang attacks SUV

I have a few from Princess Norcalboy that are post op.. Mine you do not want to see..

 

I did and it got deleted.

 

One thing to keep in the forefront is that Danny Cevallos is a lawyer and is trained to switch sides of an argument with ease. This is why lawyers are called advocates. This guy could be just as convincing arguing the case for the SUV driver. All that in needed is to drop the right coin into the right slot.

Pistolas are not Kosher in NY or NYC... If they were, there would be fewer "Hollywood Stuntaz" around..

 

Probably some asshole from CA or NY would be my guess..

 

So let's get this straight. The "man on the scene" is one of the riders in the group and he has an accusation without any video to back him up. Okay.

So the crux of what is going on is that the motorcycles were illegally blocking traffic, splitting lanes, driving recklessly and crowding all the lanes, but they are concerned that that the SUV driver was not polite while they engaged in all their illegal activity. Then when he was as reckless as they were, a bike got clipped and a rider went down.

First, where is the video of the SUV clipping the bike. With those hundreds of bikes, nobody has decided to post that yet? Okay, that sure sounds reasonable. Second, if the SUV clipped the bike why did they not call police and report the "crime" immediately? Sounds to me like its because they were a mob and since somebody challenged them, they did what mobs do.

I am not swayed. I am still in screw the bikers territory.

Jose

 

http://video.bostonherald.com/EXCLUSIVE-Man-on-scene-says-SUV-driver-was-impatient-knocked-another-biker-off-his-motorcyle-before-attack-25226249?freewheel=90017&sitesection=bostonherald_nws_loc_sec&VID=25226249

Thank You Badbilly. I did not comment when I posted the link because I do not want to argue with anyone. The riders were riding wreckless, but I questioned why out of all of the drivers on the road did this tragic event occur. It takes two to tango and the SUV driver decided to take on the riders with his family in the vehicle. There is much more to this story than people know and the News has sided with the SUV driver even though all information and evidence has not been attained. I do not condone or endorse the riders action and did not like what I saw the riders doing but things usually happen for a reason. The SUV driver had his family in the SUV and decided to take on the wreckless riders. "if two people are arguing which one is the fool"?

 

EXCLUSIVE: Man on scene says SUV driver was impatient, knocked another biker off his motorcyle before attack

 

Unnamed "man on scene" who is probably one of the gang of motorcyclists.

 

I can see why you wouldn't want to argue, like the asshole who got run over, you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

I wonder how many "Stuntaz" are doing a frame by frame examination of their vids while visions of pesos dance in their heads.

 

Well it stands to reason that since those Chinese guys all look the same they have no manners either.

 

Decide for yourself. As I previously stated - the bikers were wilding out and wrong and the SUV driver decided to take them on with his family in the vehicle. All I can say at present is more to come and everyone has a right to their opinion. Things like this usually happen for a reason

http://video.bostonherald.com/EXCLUSIVE-Man-on-scene-says-SUV-driver-was-impatient-knocked-another-biker-off-his-motorcyle-before-attack-25226249?freewheel=90017&sitesection=bostonherald_nws_loc_sec&VID=25226249

 

Thanks, and after watching the vid three times while the reporter eats this dude for lunch and he waffles under simple questions, using lame excuses for why he has not come forward because he thinks he is gonna sell the video he may or may not have, then I suppose you win the Kewpie doll for the greatest number of clichés so far.

If you know someone there who is buying video. let me know. I have a shitload. It has nothing to do with all this but I'd unload it pretty cheap. I have a Beta version of Easy Rider for ten bucks that may be of some interest. Many more.

 

At least here in IL, you cannot brake check someone without having to have a reason to stop yourself. In the video there is nothing in front of the guy, he deliberately brake checks the SUV and it's the biker's fault. At least SOME laws here make sense.

 

Cyborg has no citation of case law to support this theory. Old wives tale at best. This is also a popular scam short stopping and brake checking a pricy cage with a POS to collect damages on the spot.

The asshole on the bike was obviously purposeful in his intentions. The better indicator is that all the vehicles were on a roadway that where the speed limit is far above what the video shows. Notice too the driver and passengers of the SUV were surrounded, being passed and tailed by many motorcycles and ATVs.

If the argument is that the asshole on the bike was somehow a victim, Cyborg has been assimilated.

 

Sorry about the formatting on this cut & paste....did it on my phone.

The Wall Street Journal

NEW YORK
October 4, 2013 8:44 PM

Behind the Biker Chase on the West Side Highway

How the Confrontation Between a Family and Riders Unfolded in Manhattan

Raw video shows a throng of motorcyclists chasing an SUV up New York City's West Side highway. The SUV later pulled onto a side street, and motorcyclists attacked the driver of the vehicle. Video: YouTubeBy*PERVAIZ SHALLWANI,*TED MANN*and*WILL JAMESThe motorcyclists came together gradually last Sunday morning, their ranks growing into the hundreds as they moved through Brooklyn and Queens, alerted by friends, social media posts and text messages to join an annual ride.About the same time, financial district resident Alexian Lien, a 33-year-old vice president at Credit Suisse, and his wife, Rosalyn Ng, placed their young daughter into her car seat in a black Range Rover. They headed north on a trip to celebrate their two-year wedding anniversary.The bikers and the family clashed on the Henry Hudson Parkway on Manhattan's west side, in a confrontation seen around the world in a video taken by one of the bikers wearing a helmet camera. Mr. Lien's wife said her family feared for their lives. Some bikers present said they converged on Mr. Lien's SUV as a defensive maneuver because they say he was weaving from side to side.Police and prosecutors are still sorting out exactly what happened next and who is to blame. But some things are clear: Mr. Lien was beaten, one biker may be paralyzed, and some bikers will likely wind their way through the legal system, police said.For the riders, it began after they learned about Hollywood's Block Party 2013, the informal title of Sunday's run. It was organized by Ozone Park's Jamie "Hollywood" Lao, according to people close to him, one of whom estimated that about 100 riders gathered outside Mr. Lao's house Sunday before setting out. Bikers say the event was celebratory, and not a horde turning dangerous tricks described by New York Police Department Commissioner Ray Kelly."We know that the things we do aren't right as far as maybe running a red light or a stop sign or something like that, but we try to do so in the safest manner possible," said Justin Rios, who was riding in a cluster of bikers just ahead of the melee on the highway.Still, police were ready. Hollywood's Block Party's organizers didn't obtain a permit and the rides get larger every year and more rambunctious, with bikers trying to enter Manhattan from around the city, police said. Police investigators had been gathering information on the ride for several days, spokesman John McCarthy said, including on Twitter and Facebook, the same venues on which bikers traded word of the impending event with the hashtag #hbp2013.Mr. Kelly said that officers had been deployed to keep bikers out of the city's center, especially Times Square, to prevent a replay of 2012, when the Hollywood's Block Party riders largely shut the area down. Videos of the 2012 event posted on the web show bikers riding on sidewalks, popping wheelies, and harassing pedestrians, police said.Police arrived at biker meetup locations and inspected licenses and registrations and looked for illegal alterations. They set up checkpoints throughout the city, targeting bridges and tunnels, Mr. McCarthy said. Throughout the city, police seized 55 motorcycles, issued 68 summonses, and made 15 arrests.Mr. Rios hopped on his bike Sunday morning in Williamsburg, met up with friends, and began riding east on the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway. The destinations were gas stations, a McDonald's, and places where bikers joined with others from around the region. Most people were strangers, Mr. Rios said.There were more than 400 bikes, Mr. Rios estimated, when the group reached a stretch of Linden Boulevard in Queens, near a meetup point with Mr. Lao and others. They then headed back along the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway, he said.Mr. Lao broke off from the group, some bikers said, and another top member of the ride led the way. Mr. Lao didn't respond to requests for comment.The bikers approached the Brooklyn Bridge, and police were waiting. "The beginning of the pack kind of sped through the checkpoint and we kind of overwhelmed the cops," Mr. Rios said.Once they crossed the bridge, a group of bikers headed west, up 12th Avenue toward the West Side Highway and Henry Hudson Parkway, Mr. Rios said. Motorcyclists "took over" the road, Mr. Rios said, to prevent car drivers from colliding with bikers.It was there that Mr. Lien encountered the bikers. He tried to call 911 to report they were driving erratically, but the call didn't go through, officials said.The riders closed in on Mr. Lien's vehicle, a common formation that one biker who spoke to witnesses and gave her nickname, Chukii, described as a means of isolating and stopping motorists they feel are driving dangerously in order for the rest of the pack to pass. "We get hit all the time and then people take off," said Chukii, who organized an event for an injured biker.Police say they believe the bikers planned to slow down and block traffic to get open terrain to race and perform stunts—which police say is a common occurrence during mass rides.Around 125th Street, Christopher Cruz, a 28-year-old from Passaic, N.J. whose New Jersey driver's license has been suspended four times, records show, pulled in front of Mr. Lien's vehicle. The video shows him looking back at the SUV's front bumper and slowing down in an apparent attempt to bring the car to a stop. He was charged with unlawful imprisonment, and at a later Manhattan court hearing, a judge said Mr. Cruz posed a "risk to human life based on the conditions of his driving."H. Benjamin Perez, a lawyer for Mr. Cruz, said his client did "nothing that was criminal."Mr. Lien's car hit Mr. Cruz's bike, bringing the highway procession to a halt. Bikers swarmed around the Range Rover, and one biker exchanged angry words with Mr. Lien, a witness said. A side view mirror was smashed, someone hit the vehicle, and the tires may have been slashed, police said."We were placed in grave danger by a mob of reckless and violent motorcyclists," Ms. Ng said in a statement issued by her lawyers. "We were faced with a life-threatening situation."The video shows that Mr. Lien accelerated, allegedly striking three people and rolling over one motorcycle with his Range Rover's front right tire before heading up the highway. Biker Giancarolo Cardenas, a 32-year-old from Paterson, N.J, was hit and suffered a leg injury, officials said. And biker Edwin Mieses, a 32-year-old sound engineer from Lawrence, Mass.—who doesn't have a driver's license in his home state, but has been issued violations for driving, records show—was struck. His spine and ribs were cracked and he may be paralyzed, his wife said in interviews outside St. Luke-Roosevelt Hospital.The bikers chased Mr. Lien's car. Police received their first 911 call from Ms. Ng at 1:52 p.m. near 165th Street, Mr. McCarthy said, where Mr. Lien was again stopped on the road. The video shows a biker in a white helmet—allegedly Robert Sims, 35, who turned himself in to officials on Friday, police said—rush up to the Range Rover and pull open the driver's side door. Mr. Lien accelerated away, swinging the door closed.Soon after, 911 dispatchers received another call from Ms. Ng, then another, at 1:55 p.m., saying the SUV was stopped at 178th St. near Wadsworth Avenue in Washington Heights. The tires had gone flat.The attack on the couple's car began, police said. About 30 bikers were present, a witness said. In the video, one biker is seen taking off his chrome-colored helmet and repeatedly smashing the SUV's driver's side window, shattering it.Mr. Lien was pulled from the car and beaten. Both of his eyes were blackened and he needed stitches on his face and left side, police said."Next thing I know, he was on the floor taking a couple shots to the face," said a rider who witnessed it. "I was scared. I was kind of shocked that it had happened," he said. A bystander tried to break it up, he said.Ms. Ng called 911 a final time at 2 p.m. from 178th St. and St. Nicholas Ave. The bikers were gone. Police arrived while she was talking to a dispatcher. An ambulance arrived two minutes later, Mr. McCarthy said.Ms. Ng, in the statement, said the beating of her husband proved how accurate their fears for their safety had been. "We know in our hearts that we could not have done anything differently," Ms. Ng said. "And we believe that anyone faced with this sort of grave danger would have taken the same course of action in order to protect their family."Investigators are still trying to put all the pieces together. Police arrested Allen Edwards, seen in the video hitting the side of the SUV with his arm shortly before Mr. Lien was attacked. But the Manhattan District Attorney's Office declined to prosecute him, because he said he intended to help, not hurt, the driver. Mr. Edwards couldn't be reached for comment.A lawyer representing Mr. Lien and Ms. Ng declined to comment. Detectives so far identified and talked to "a few of the dozens and dozens" of motorcyclists who were either involved or may have witnessed the incident, a law-enforcement official said, adding, "We don't know 80% of what happened yet."

—Daniel Lippman, Sean Gardiner and Sarah Armaghan contributed to this article.

 

Whoo-Hoo! The "organizer" Hollywood Lao is saying he didn't know about anything more that the assholes he organized? LOL!

Chukii maybe can pull a train for some pesos.

The axe is going to fall on a whole bunch of these assholes before the fat lady sings a song about mixed metaphors.

 

^^I hope you copied and pasted that and not typed it...:hss:^^