New noise restrictions in Quebec, I be concerned

So I received the paperwork for my bike registration today, and in it was a colorful note explaining how they have trained some staff to use decibel meters. They found some ANSI noise stat that they will enforce. So anything above 100db nabs you a 100-300$ ticket.. and if you refuse the test.. 200-300$ fine.

Anyone know how many db a 2 Bro carbon can is at 5000RPM?

 

Probably more than that dodgy French state allows now Bummer
Does it have a do killer insert ? If not make one, use it for the MoT & then take it out. The Eurocrats are trying to do a similar thing in Europe, looks like Quebec is the beta tester !!!!!

 

That's a bummer but I would gladly put a stock exhaust on if all the Harley's had to do the same thing.

 

That really sucks. They are trying to pass a noise bylaw where I live aimed at bikes but it doesn't look like it will be too enforceable as far as we can tell. Any bike can get loud if you rev it high enough. Just because It could be loud doesn't mean that you ride it that way. It's like charging you for assault for carrying a baseball bat down the street, sure you could beat someone with it but it doesn't mean that you would.

 

that sucks, I know CA has a bill that forbids tanpering with exhaust systems in the near future. Emissions stuff sucks, I am happier than a pig in shite after removing that PAR crap. Makes getting carbs on/off easier too, (Toe-ee wuz right.) Cheers

 

If it is the same thing they tried to do in Ontario, you will be fine. The only bikes that failed the test were harleys/customs with straight pipes.

 

I just installed a db meter app on my iPhone.. I am just curious how loud it actually is. And for the record, in my 42 years on this planet, I have yet to see a Harley stopped by a cop in Quebec.

 

This is such a strange planet isn't it. Why is is socially acceptable to take a two cylinder touring bike, load it with half a ton of accessories, cut the exhaust off, then allow two, ahem, stocky individuals, climb on board and ride it on public roads. I'm not so concerned with the noise pollution, although it can be pretty extreme. For me it is more about road safety. I mean can you honestly say that these modified beasts still meet the safety standards that they were certified to? Will they stop and turn at an acceptable standard so as not to become a hazard to other motorists?

This concern isn't limited to the HD brand of motorcycles. I see vehicles of all types using our roadways that are in such poor condition they should be sent to the scrapper immediately. The lights are yellow, the frame is rotten, the exhaust is falling off and there they are, pulling trailers, hauling families and being driven just like the day they were new. The cops ignore them completely until they take someones life. WTF

Sorry guys, rant off.......

 

it can be on the books but they may only enforce it if you get stopped for something else... try to bump up the revenue...

my best friend growing up, his dad had a hot rod that had two different exhausts. if he got pulled over he would pull a cable and it flipped a "gate" that pushed the exhaust to the muffled side.. it was pretty cool...

 

That's all well & good, but I think you guys are missing the more impt. thing I learned from reading this posting:

Toe...that thing is supercharged??!! What the what?? Fill me in.

 

I did a quick check with the decibel meter app.. I am around 100db, so I guess it will depend on how polite I am with the cop that pulls me over lol

 

100db is quite loud. At an idle, I don't think your bike will fail unless all the baffles have been removed.

I used to check harleys when the warranted being checked. The old radio antennae up the pipes told me if the guy was getting a ticket or not. No decibel meter needed. Baffles remove, bike illegal, paperwork properly prepared and politely served. And BTW. The bike did not drive away either. Unless of course it was fixed right there, but I would not allow (by law) repaired to be done at roadside on our freeway. There are a whole pile of regulations that govern what happens on a "scheduled" highway in BC which our freeways are, that don't apply to about 99% of the highways and roads here. I guess more accurately what does not happen.

Harleys are seldom traveling down the highways at similar speeds to ours so may not attract as much attention that way.

We here in Canada can be pulled over for vehicle inspections alone. What Crusty says about being pulled over down in the USA does not apply here. Matter of fact, you can be pulled over simply for the purpose to verify that you do have a valid driver's license. Not to have a driver's license has very far reaching consequences if involved in an accident. Like void insurance!

Got a little off topic there, But I would not sweat the meters too much. I really believe they are targeting the extremely loud cars trucks and of course some of the bikes. Especially in Quebec where they spread road salt with graders causing everything to rot out, including exhaust systems.

 

I checked it at around 4000 rpm, but yeah I am not that concerned I guess.. I always keep the rpm's down in town anyways

 

I can't remember exactly how I used to check with the meter when I did, but the sensor was held a few inches away from the end of the pipe, and the vehicle was at an Idle I think or very low RPM. No where near 4000 RPM. The Motor Vehicle Act Regulations set the rpm level and a Duramax, for example, I don't think will hit 4000 RPM.

 

I read the PDF from the government, they test at 5000RPM

 

That ain't no rant!! Just tellin it like it is.. The "stocky" part was nice..

 

Wow. Wonder how they would check my truck then.

Oh well

 

Assuming a bike, say a VFR of one of the many generations, is in top at 5000rpm, the guy who tries to stick his probe in that little hole at the end of a pipe must really practice a lot. I can't imagine even trying that if there are two open pipes or mufflers. That being said, the harleydoods probably get off to things of that nature and slow down.


I have always said that Canadians are very resourceful dudes even in Quebec.

 

Sorry this won't help you if your from the "Great White North". If your in the US here's a link to the AMA's website regarding individual state motorcycle laws. Sound restrictions vary greatly from state to state.

State-By-State Motorcycle Laws.

 

I read about that a few weeks ago. I too have an aftermarket exhaust (a carbon A1) from the previous owner. It doesn't seem that loud to me tho. The bike was bought from a dealer & they don't have the stock muffler. I was told the muffler can be re-packed with sound deadening material if needed. I seriously hope I won't need to. I was wondering where I can have a noise test done. BTW Crashburn, how accurate the iphone app is in measuring the noise ?