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  1. wildstang

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    yea i talked several times with tech and they said untill i purchase it i cant gain access to any maps lol had to submit a list of mods already performed for them to put a map selection together is how i took it. also glad i ran my bikes vin on the online identifier and realized i dont have an american (origin) made vfr.
     


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    Here is my current ignition map versus the Rapid Bike stock VFR map versus the Rapid Bike modded VFR map:


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    They gave me Rapid Bike maps for pretty much every bike ever made....
     


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    Well keep me up to date on the cams, because I want to do that too.
     


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    once you get it on the dyno im sure its going to show increases throughout the whole rpm band but shine more in the mid to top. i'd bet after you post some dyno charts showing gains over the dynojet software there will be others jumping on this software also.
    this is definitely a plus by an aftermarket tuner opening the door for the viffer to unleash its hidden potential!!!
     


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    Great thread, cant wait for the dyno work.
     


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    still researching the valvetrain components yet. have to test spring pressures and how close its to max lift as is and see how much lift can be added before necessitating a spring change. measure piston to valve clearances also. dont want to change the factory valve geometry to much if possible.
    maybe just stiffer springs to handle the higher lift and better valve stability in the higher rpm's if it turns out the springs dont have adequate seat pressure and capable of handling a slight lift increase that is.
    but anytime you go to stiffer springs it stresses various items such as valve guides and such for example.
    then theres spring availabilty issues.
     


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    I am thinking it is really going to shine in the bottom end department. that is where most of the advance is, and where you feel it the most. Also where it really really shines is rolling into the gas at low revs. There is ignition advance building from 5% throttle applications. You won't see this on a dyno, though, but this is where you really feel it on normal street riding.

    One thing I am wondering about, is why every ignition map that I have seen has little to no advance up top. Some of the CBR maps that I have looked at actually pull back timing up top. I know those are much more highly strung engines than ours that have already been factory tuned to run on premium fuel, and that ours have not and can use way more advance, but still....
     


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    Thanks me too!
     


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    How about titanium components??
     


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    easiest way i can explain it is a positively advanced (degreed) cam will produce power quicker down low and midrange and retarding the cam by degreeing less advance closer to zero or negative rocks the powerband in favor for upper rpm potential.
    i will have to re-read this after i had more coffee and see if i made sense here. lol
     
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    titanium would be great. just not as familiar as familiar with the bike worlds availability of said parts as they are so readily available for the automotive industry. i do know of some and (me) that have applied the technology of undercutting the stems such as manley does with some of there stainless steel valves for automotives. giving the valve a 20% undercut at the valve side and giving the valve a swirl polish also. both effects make the valve operate with increased efficiency similar too a bigger valve. and reducing mass.
    and i commonly apply a 5 angle valve job to my builds rather then the traditional 3 angle also.
    from what ive seen these heads can definitely benefit from a bowl blending also. at least on my spare castings im prepping anyways.
    was actually suprised honda didn't adapt head builders technology such as "cast right" technology into there tooling of the head castings. theres plenty of flash casting in stock form to disrupt cfm flow in the heads i have on the bench. so the plus side of that is once its removed it will increase airflow (cfm) on bench testing.
    headwork is my favorite part of engine building. ive seen over the years in the automotive side of things a properly set up head can make an extra 25+ hp over and untouched head. to me thats free HP. the cheapest alteration one can make, that is if you dont have to pay someone to do it for you. lol
     
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    untill you actually get it on a dyno you can examine a few of hondas factory race bikes ignition curves and adapt some of the upper rpm adjustments into yours to squeeze a little extra out on the top end. but its basically a crap shoot untill its put on the dyno. also the cbr's mechanical advance plate has more built in total advance then the vfr's timing plate. that would also be why the vfr charts showed more timing increases in the upper rpms then the cbr charts. cbr is already got higher total advance built into the plate.
     
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    Today Lenny from Rapid Bike logged in on my laptop and did a live tutorial for me and also ran through all the settings. The hands on tech support that comes with Rapid Bike is awesome! With my laptop plugged into my bike, Lenny was able to adjust all my settings and run diagnosis on the Rapid Bike from the other side of the country. It was literally like I had a professional mechanic make a house call to my friends garage, to lend a hand. We tweaked all the settings on the quickshifter and now it is fully operational and shifting at 61 milliseconds!!! That is unbelievably fast, race bike fast! And I am glad to report, not one missed shift all day. This blows my old set up out of the water!
     


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    that tech feature is what impressed me 2 when i read about it!
     


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    Yeah it is awesome. Basically you buy a product and you get free training and hands on tech on it for life! I feel like the training and tech support alone is worth the money. Yesterday, Lenny straightened everything out for me and then tells me, "Okay give me a call tomorrow and let me know how everything is and I will walk you through some of the other features that I want to show you. Then after a week or so with this map, I have another one I want you to try out for me. You can let me know how it feels in certain areas and we can dial it in. Then we will eventually have a really good starting point for you when you got to get this thing dyno'd." He then showed me the accelerator pump feature, and we activated that and tweaked it a little. Hopefully we will start getting the launch control/pit lane feature set up soon too.

    Can you say breaking into the tens? My best run so far is 11.2 at 120 mph. I think the quickshifter should be worth .10-.15 seconds, then hopefully I will pick up at least a tenth from the extra power and maybe start seeing 10.9s. I mean an 11 flat would be cool, but I would really love to say that I have a 10 second VFR! lol
     


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    my goal is to break into the 10's with finished mods. my best at our drag strip is 11.40 with current setup. but im also at a higher elevation then florida also. unfortunitely elevation plays a big factor in et's. the gear change made the biggest differance on mine.
     


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    Yeah I take the for granted. We're pretty much sea level in Orlando. I am running a one tooth down up front, 520 conversion kit. That made made a huge difference. I am kinda thinking about doing an extra tooth out back as well.
     


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    yea thats the setup im currently running now. -1 front +1 rear. had to order and install speedo corrector tho. threw it off 7mp. got my speedo corrector off amazon calibrated it with my GPS unit.
     


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    wanted to go +2 on the rear sprocket but i do a fair share of highway and interstate cruising on mine and didn't wanna drone along to far over 5g's all the time.
    couple more days and i shall have my rapid bike in the mail. before it goes off sale. just glad i found a buyer for my PC5 and auto-tune.
     


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