No rearsets available?

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  1. cornerexit

    cornerexit New Member

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    Scoured the net, can't find a single company making rearsets for the 7th gen :(

    Anyone found anything?
     


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    Nor could I so I milled my own, currently running in race shift pattern with quickshifter. Still in the process of working out the best way to get them on the market.
    Never have to move my feet, apart from stopping at the lights.
     


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    Pictures Rusty, pictures!!
     


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    Sorry Dave, no can do yet, these are totally unique in as much as they are so simple, infinitely adjustable up, down, back and angle plus will fit many makes and models of bikes without changes. 12 months of development, 6 prototypes and now 6 months of testing completed. Hence no pics of my bike in the garage either, I need to protect the idea till I either sell it off or someone with a few dollars more than I backs it through patent. I believe worldwide I only need a few million, LOL! If you know anyone who can help I'd love to hear from them.

    Cheers Rusty
     


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    Ain't quite the same as sharing how to change oil.. Good luck with your work.. Be really careful when dealing with some outfits that claim to be able to ease the way through at least US Patents.. Lots of sharks out there in the great pond.
     


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    Well Rusty, I'd be interested in buying a set and signing a no picture disclosure. I'm just trying to get a good riding position. I'm floored that out of dozens of companies making rearsets, not one of them offer anything. Same goes for a full system for this bike, only slip-ons available :(
     


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    True, and thanks. So I've heard, I wish there was an easy way.

    Cheers Rusty
     


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    Not yet, the non disclosures are the biggest hurdle, no one believes in them. I even cover them up if I am parking anywhere near you may find a knowledgeable biker, it was fun at the Island for the WSBK the other week. Tooling up to make a full system for a relatively low volume bike is the reason. The slipons are only slight mods on one item. I had a full set of 2 Bro's Racing for my VFR750, there is a LOT of changes needed to fit them on a VIFR12. For a system I want something different, 4-2 running 2 smaller mega's, thats previously been through mockup on mine, looks insane. They run a similar setup on the RCV's' I think it works, LOL. Have ordered mandrel bends but my tig skills aren't good enough yet, thinking on going back to school, at 57! For the rearsets I am currently looking at having individual pieces made by different Chinese CNC'sers and not telling them what they are for. I source a lot of stuff through China for my day job, due to varying quality issues over there I'll probably get them made in Thailand in the end, more expensive but consistent, plus I go there often for holidays, then I can claim those on tax. Don't know how else to do it, too many issues approaching individual manufacturers to sell the idea, too expensive to patent it, only to have China steal it anyway.

    I'll keep you posted, it won't be too far off.

    Cheers Rusty
     
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    Anyone who is of the mind that the Chinese do not steal is full of shit.

    Among things present and past are software and books.

    Chinese guys would be first in line at major booksellers in NYC like kids who camp out to buy tix to whatever the latest thing is (Jousting Beaver ?) Days later the market would be saturated with knockoff books at reduced prices. This was 20+ years ago and was not "Red China" .

    The US version of Google has US Patent Office info.. Wiki has how-to.. not perfect but better than nothing.

    I have come up with a couple of "medical" things. Best advice I got was from a Dr. friend. Get in, then get out.. rake in as much as you can and then kiss it bye-bye
    Suing for patent violation is only for the rich guys. Made enough to buy a couple of bikes.. on one..

    Luck..
     


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    Sounds intriguing. I hope your design is better than the Vario pegs which somehow just miss the mark for me personally.
     


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    Totally agree, and expensive.
     


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    Rusty not trying to infringe on your work......but I did give a call to Kyle Racing today to see if Dan can ask Mr. Sato to make them for this bike. Pretty please, with sugar on top. Dan was the first one to bring Satoproducts here and they speak on the reg. Having used them on my '51, they work pretty good.
     


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    Will Dan at Kyle Racing call Mr. Sato about those rearsets or pegs? Stay tuned to see if they might fit my 53 Velocette. Whoops I forgot. I sold it.. Nevermind.
     


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    CBR 929/954 rearsets fit, as will those intended for many other models, as the mounting points are the same ! The brake is simple as it's the same on many Honda's, so simple to relocate to the new rearsets the only issue may be the gear change, but that would be limited to a different push rod length is all. The gear shaft splines are a common size.

    Happy shopping.
     


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    Are you sure? We are talking about the 7th gen.

    Forums -VFR Generations-7th Generation 2010-Present-No rearsets available?
     


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    If this is such a relatively easy changeup, why are the manufacturers not pointing this out and selling the necessary pushrods and bell crank units for fitment to the 1200's. With all this generation shit, can begats be far behind? In the beginning there was Harley who begat Davidson..

    Just curious.
     


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    YES I'm sure, look at these pictures. By 7th Gen I take it you mean the Crossrunner. Which is a 6th Gen with some new bodywork & a retune but not much else.
    The 7th, uses the same Under Cushion as the 6th & the CBR929/954 use a cut down version (NO Mainstand) as the 6th Gen. Or rather the 6th uses the CBR's as it came first !

    6th Gen on Bikepics http://p1.bikepics.com/2012/09/17/bikepics-2456736-full.jpg
    7th Gen http://www.dailynewscompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Honda-Crossrunner-VFR800X.jpg
    CBR954 http://p1.bikepics.com/2012/06/30/bikepics-2422478-full.jpg

    The cushion as Honda call it is the bit that wraps around the swingarm pivots & bolts to the lower rear of the engine to stabilise the swingarm pivot point.
    You can see that the 6/7th gens are identical. The CBR's is a bit different, because there are no rear pipes & its a different model. Check the spacing of the rearset mounts & if in doubt, ask your supplier for that dimension. You will find its the same.

    Then get on the bay or down to a bike breakers & buy a gear lever connector for a CBR600/900 etc Then get a connector shaft made or modified, or ask you supplier for an alternative length to suit your application.

    Have fun.
     


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    Ah I fear you may have been talking about the VFR1200, which to me is another breed, not related the the VFR750/800 series in anyway shape or form apart for being a V4 engine. In which case you are on your own & the accessories companies appear to feel the same way, as they only seem to offer touring accessories for that model. Why would you want rear sets on one of those :(
     


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    Does anyone find it strange to A: read the initial post that starts a given thread or B: finds it odd that all those generational things look just like Hondas?

    As me Da said, " Don't let nothin but fear hold you back". Actually he said "anything but fear" but he wasn't a biker. Then again, it may have been gramps who said that. This generational thing is very confusing sometimes.
     


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    Is this not VFRWorld? IS this not the correct section for the VFR1200? :crazy:

    Why do I want rear sets? For a multitude of reasons. 1. More precise shifting. Aftermarket rear sets offer better gear engagement due to the ball bearings. Smoother shifting makes the ride better.

    2. The ability to move them slightly up and back. I'm 6'2" and wear a 48 sized boot. On my 2nd ride on the thing I was scraping boots and wasn't even at the limit of the tires or maximum lean. I do not want a track position but they need to be moved.

    3. Crash worthiness. OEM pegs fold and I've already had them come up on me while swapping foot positions which is annoying. Fixed pegs also provide an easy way to jack the bike up to remove the rear shock.

    4. Because I want them. This is still a sportbike even if its heavy and has a shaft drive. It corners well, has plenty of power, etc.

    I'm sorry that I don't ride like some old lady. And I don't think it's unreasonable to expect at least one rear set mfr on the Earth to exist.
     
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