Is this actually true?

I am running Pilot Road 3s on my 1993. I have only been riding a few years and am so afraid of a low side I dont push the lean angle any further than I am comfortable.



This blows my mind.

 

You should watch moto gp.......
Rider would drag their knee and elbow at the same time.

 

You need speed.....skill and titanium balls.:wink:

 

Ya I watch Moto GP but I thought that they might have a different profile of tire to allow them to do that. I wouldnt ever risk my VFR to try this just wondered if the concept was solid. I have never even hit the little nuts on the bottom of my pegs haha.

 

That sumbich should have black pucks so he doesn't leave those fugley lime green marks on the pavement.

I don't think I would rely on PR3's to hold quite that well. They are a good all round tire but for that kind of cornering, I think you need something that are soft like gum, well chewed gum.

 

It is safer that way :thumb:

 

Watch Marquez this year in MotoGp. This kid is the real deal. He was scraping his elbows at will. So much so that Valentino rode behind him and said he was fvcking crazy (in a good way). Ale was impressed.

MotoGp tires, according to Edwards, grip so well, that they are literally trying to suck the bike into the Tarmac once warmed up.

 

Will the VFR lean past the lugs on the bottom of the pegs? Are those pretty much marking the limit I would guess?

 

I one heard (or read) somewhere that "you will run out of balls before you run out of tire", basically meaning that unless you just put shit tires on your bike, you should trust them to hold a firm grip on the road, and my experience has thus far shown that to be true.

Honestly, if you are pushing your bike so hard on the street that you are risking lowsiding due to extreme lean angle, you should probably chill out a bit.

That being said, my old 87 still has the stock wheels on it (I have a set of F2 wheels in the garage for it) which means that I can only use bias ply tires, and I've had that old dog leaned over further than I thought it could manage...I couldn't imagine pushing a bike so hard on the street that it would lowside like that.

 

Nah I dont push it. One time I needed to get around a sharp corner and gave the bar a push and it rolled to the angle I was used to then like started to almost fall over in lean angle...I about pooped my pants lol. I needless to say got around the corner and got it vertical LOL. Seems like once you get past a certain point then the angle comes in pretty easy haha.

My 93 is my baby haha if I scratched it I would probably cry lol.

 

You can always unscrew those capscrew feelers on your bike, put em in a vise and run a rasp over them. Be careful though to get the angle right and watch out for dudes on bike nights who are checking out bikes with inspection mirrors.

Best bet on how to is fork over some bucks to one of the riding schools with a solid track record. Best leave that knee and elbow stuff to the fast guys. They ain't here, they are there. Anybody here that is talking that shit is talkin smack.

 

Riders don't run off the road because they run out of traction, they run off the road because they think they must and give up. A bike will do incredible things if you think it can. Case in point. Years ago my wife and I were coming back from a ride. We were headed into town and I took and exit that I thought was the ramp to the intersecting interstate, a sweeping 60 mph turn. Instead I stuffed it into the preceding exit, a 20 mph decreasing radius turn. A curb running along the outside made things more interesting. I nailed the brakes but it wasn't enough. I knew that to give up and go wide would hurt or kill us both and the bike would be totaled. Luckily I knew about counter steering so I pushed it down and pushed it down and pushed it down some more. I determined that if anything I was going to low side rather than go wide. To my absolute amazement the bike never faltered. It just held the line at an incredible lean angle and we rolled up to the stop sign shaken but alive. My wife never rode with me again after that. She said that while I was busy she was looking down at the pavement whizzing by at what seemed like inches away. She said "it looked like a giant grinding wheel."

 

Glad you are ok Jim! Ya it seems these machines are capable of alot more than people know.

 

The bike and tires have bigger balls then you.....but ice, water, oil, sand, gravel change things in a hurry. The track is kept clean but the street is just a blind corner away from disaster. I keep my chicken strips nice and wide....just in case I get in too deep and need to find some fresh new rubber! LOL

 

I have seen many VFR's at the track doing respectable times. With some good rubber and aftermarket rear sets the hefty girls will definitely lean way over. What Big Jim said is absolutely true and taught at most tracks, try and make the turn, don't give up. Its usually fear that causes a lot a crashes. And I would much rather low side than high side!

 

On my honeymoon trip (2up on the 954) we encountered a *surprise!* corner. I just leaned it over and held on. I was surprised it held, but I guess I shouldn't be.

When I did my first track day the one thing they hammered into us was to keep turning. The bike will hold. Of course the track isn't the same as the street. People often comment on my chicken strips and I would rather have those than a crashed bike.

 

I consider myself a pretty chickenhearted rider. I have been surprised by sand, mud clods, hay, dogs, oil, grease, gravel and just about every kind of obstruction you can think of in a corner. Like Maggot said, "the track is kept clean" but on the street, not so much. I don't feel it necessary to test the limits of traction every time I am out.

I was taught the first rule of road racing is always look where you want to go. New riders end up in the weeds because that's where they are looking. Works on the street too.

 

What Jim said - look where you want to go (not where you don't want to end up) hold on, push and ray2: :thumbsup:

 

The last two is soooooooo true ound:
:thumb: ride as your own pase