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Clear faceshields and polarized sunglasses

Discussion in 'Gear & Accessories' started by woody77, Jan 12, 2013.

  1. 34468 Randy

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    A routine trip to the Ophthalmologist every two years. Yup. Had glaucoma several years back and with some fancy lights and witchcraft, that is fixed. Reflected/refracted, who cares? Common terminology is fine with me. In any event, riding southbound on an over cast day with a wet road is a bitch. Drinking coffee on the patio next to and facing a white sided house is a bitch. Who knows? Drinking tea might have the same effect. My first wife is a bitch. My night vision is great until such time as a very stupid supervisor shines his flashlight in my face while I am crawling through bushes in darkness looking for some guy with a weapon. Often wondered how he made it through boot camp without someone beating the crap out of him.

    Thanks for the advise BB but all is good. BTW.....I still get wet arms and shoulders when wearing pinlock.
     


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    Reflected and refracted are common terms. Your opthamologist can shed some light on both in simple terms on your next visit.

    I will from now to eternity avoid traveling South on the slab whenever possible. The very idea sounds scary. Eastbound in the wee hours of the morning (sans rain. fog, sleet, hail, rain and other foul weather) can be a bitch. The other way round too in the PM.. That light can be as much as 10-12,000 degrees Kelvin.

    Have you tried milk, +/- half a 750ml jug of that single malt you like or painting your house? With a little practice with a big white wall to work with, you can make some nifty silhouettes with your hands.

    Sorry about your first wife. I would imagine she says equally nice things about you too..LOL

    If this miscreant you were burrowing for in the bush is a real case, then yes, your supervisor at the time was not real smart. If it was a training exercise, it was done on purpose. Best info on night vision in general will be on one of the military medical websites.
     


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    I'm farsighted, and with an astigmatism that allows me to pass a DMV vision exam, but I prefer wearing my glasses as I have FAR better depth perception with them than without. I refuse to ride the bike without my glasses on. No way I'm taking those risks (even though it's completely legal, much like me riding after a single beer).

    I am, however, loving the polarized lenses in the car. I'm seeing the damp parts of the road even better than without, as I see them as dark patches (the shine of the light off them was matching the color of the surrounding pavement), and the fact that the satin sheen changes with movement means that I can see it as slick as well. Very nice. That on top of the reduced contrast (to within a range that the eye can safely deal with), is just icing on the cake.

    I've been riding for the last two years with the dark smoke visor in daylight, and clear at night, when I remembered to take the clear (or start with the smoked). It's nice, but not as nice as polarized at cutting glare.

    Riding with the visor open? not above 30mph (if that). The wind coming in tears up my eyes so fast I can't see anything. That may be due to the glasses, though.
     


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    Is bad billy being bad Again?
     


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    BadBilly is being rather helpful and cogent in this thread. I'm actually rather curious how he knows so much about optics.
     


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    The power of research I believe. All you need to do is spend the time and find the ligit resources and learn. I just don't. I don't mind being informed and corrected.
     


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    I had a conversation with my optomotrist about sun-glasses, I mentioned to him that I wear American Optics sunglasses and if he ever heard of them. He did, and according to him the pilots of jet air lines have a problem with polarized sun-glasses and vision (seeing thru the windshield) seems that if you have a polarized sun-glass and try to look thru a polarized windshield, you have problems. American Optics are not polarized. AnywHOOoooo-My favorite and only sunglasses are Vaurnets that are at least 30 years old, I have found they are the best for me. My AO glasses reflected the frames inside my visor, the french made glasses sit on my nose like a fine piece of pussy...
     


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    The "problem" is that the windscreens or shields are polycarbonate and may have a laminate of polarized film. This is exacerbated wearing polarized shades rendering cross polarization. What the biggies in aircraft manufacture are doing changes everyday. Several sources for polarized front and sidescreens for smaller aircraft.

    Don't know about Lexan.. until I dig my Cuisinart out of the kitchen cabinet.

    A quickie check to see if one's shades are polarized is to (at least with PC's) call up Word, Works Word Processor, either of the two note boards, Paint or any blank screen on a flatscreen monitor that is LCD or LED (plasma? not clue) and turn the shades sideways. If ya see dark holes the shades are polarized. If ya see black holes, it's too late for much of anything including pussy.
     


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    So went riding a while back with the polarized sunglasses and the clear face-shield. It was ok, but I was happier with the dark smoke faceshield, less crazy rainbows on some surfaces. So I picked up a cheap tankbag to hold spare shields in.
     


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    I have a Shoei Qwest and it has the pin lock system. I absolutely despise that system. Actually, I think it sucks. Give me a regular old shield that is anti-fog any day over this worthless thing. I just love how you have this nice clear little insert in the middle of your faceshield, and then all around the perimeter of that insert is fog, moisture, condensation, etc., all shit that you have to constantly see out of the corner of your eye. If I can, I will sell this helmet, unless someone can tell me where to get a regular old anti-fog shield for it??
     


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    Wow. I am normally fairly critical of a product and to be honest was not holding much expectations of satisfaction on the Pinlock System for my Shoei Xtwelve, but I am quite please with the performance. I do get that area around the edge of my shield you speak of but it is only about 1/4 inch on the sides and maybe 1/8th inch top and bottom if that. Hardly noticeable on mine.

    I have replaced the shield recently but in all fairness, the original was a couple years old and I have probably ridden 30K miles with that shield, probably 75% of the time in cool wet weather, so I think the silicon bead finally failed.

    I had tried another similar product before this and it did fail miserably as it was considerably thicker and would bind and pull away from its seals when the visor is being opened and closed. Wish you luck in finding something.
     


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    Yeah, don't use the polizaried lenses boss.....unless you are riding over snow, or at sea, better to have only tinted so as not to compromise your field of visual and pavements details/road hazards. Just not worth it. My polarized Bolle's did the rainbow thingy in my helmet and my truck's tinted side windows. I only use my tinted Oakley's now.

    Keep the rubba side down....

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    Thass it! If ya don't like or want to see those "rainbows" then ditch the polycarbonate shield or the polarized glasses. Are we there yet?

    Pinlocks? RTFM! LOL
     


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    Yes 34468 Randy, I am very vocal about my dislike for this shield system. I love the helmet....the helmet itself is great. But I have no use for this pin lock idea.
    I'll take pics of the fogging that takes place around the perimeter of the insert....it's much more than an 1/8 inch on this helmet.
     


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    I saw a similar complaint about this on a Harley forum. It was suggested by several harleydoods that it would not happen if the wearer would stop breathing.
     


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    You mean Harley dudes wear this helmet?? Hell, I know I'm getting rid of it now....
     


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    Apologies!! I misread thinking if looking for pinheads, a harley forum would be perfect..
     


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    I know lots of pinheads, don't think any of them ride a Harley.....but yea....that would be a perfect place to go look for them.
     


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    Mathew 7:7-8..
     


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    been watching this thread - I have a pair of Vaunets that I found on a tennis court over 30 years ago. I only, and mean only wear these for riding, they sit inside of my helmut and on the bridge of my nose like nothing else. So this means, I have ridden over 200,000 street miles with FREE SUNGLASSES....:homer: :rofl:

    Note to selves, dont ever brag or tell for that matter, that you own sunglasses that are 30+ years old if they are the types that destroy sunglasses on a regular basis. This could be construed as a hostile act. Secret to having them last a long time? Eye-Glass Case....Nuff Sed... ; )
     


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