What kind of gas do you use?

this is true, but when you use lower grade gas youll get knocking, and as a result timing will be pulled, lowering your HP. by using higher octane gas, your not adding HP, your just not losing any due to the computer retarding the timing to prevent knocking.

my car has 2deg of timing pulled over the normal tune and it lost about 20-30HP.

 

Nothing but 87 octane in my 2000. Reformulated in the summer (E10) 87 octane. It runs fine and does not ping.

The rule is don't pay for more than you need. Premium fuel will not increase your HP or mileage one bit unless you've pumped up the engine's compression or advanced the spark timing to the point where 87 pings on hard acceleration, but otherwise in stock form Regular is all you need. :smile:

 

Very true - I experienced the same thing in an car. I use 93 Octane only in my 2k VFR and I try to stick with the major brnad types. The FI bikes like 90 or better octane. I know I can feel the differenc when i crack the throttle on my 2k VFR which is why I will only use 90 or better octane in my bike.

In the end - it is to each his own!!!

 

The oil/helmet/gas argument all over again. At least we all agree that VFR's are great bikes. Except for the guy the driving the Buell (he's a dork... J/k I like your bike)

 

Not all injected bikes and/or cars, unless they specifically call for it, a higher grade gas is just wasted $$.
And this is a pretty accepted thing, unlike oils and such. All the major manufactures agree, AAA, ASE, all the major car & bike mags -- everyone who has actually done the testing.
I would follow the manufacturer above any dealer -- they designed and built the thing, they know it better.
Somewhere on here, or on the board for one of my cars (?), I even posted the links to multiple, objective sources, and even one of the gas companies websites (Shell?) that all said don't run the higher grade unless you need to for your specific engine, otherwise buy the lowest grade recommended by the manufacturer.
I am all for babying my toy, run synthetic oil, use mostly OEM parts, etc.; but here it is just not necessary. Super gas is just a marketing ploy for most of us.
As for what I run, mostly Costco regular, some Safeway regular on occassion, with a spattering of others very occassionally. Bike and cars run fine, even when taken to very high mileage. Gas is nearly all the same, except for some small differences in the additive package, heck, even once refined, most of it travels in the same nationwide pipelines.

Ethanol has an very high Octane rating (like 110?) but gives you about 20-30% less mileage for example. It is just very resistant to pre-ignition.

 

Anything but the Commie loving America Haters Citco. Yes I know the stations are individually owned, but they refine over 40% of their fuel in Venezuela, and besides the Isle de Margarita, I can do without it.

93 octane the best I can find Exxon Amoco Chevron Buy American!

 

I second that VaRollOn with Citgo! They receive no more business from Mr. Zanetti!

 

I look forward to some of their AK's to make it up from Venezuela in the form of part kits. But I think that Amoco is BP owned and that is British. Do we still not like those bad teeth, tea swilling war starters? They gave us reason to have the second amendment so they will always have a place in my heart. But what have they done for America lately?

 

Yo DL aren't you being a little rough on our best ally in the world, them Australia, Canada and maybe Turkey.. I know the Brits are seriously pissed about Iraq, I have been to London twice since the invasion, but its not like the US citizens are happy about it.

Stick with your friends, fight extremism! Tell that to Van Gogh with the bowie knife and page of the Koran protruding from his chest 18 times:rip:.

 

I like the Brits (except the one I met yesterday). I have jokes about them because I like them. I don't like their current political mindset though. They banned all guns in 97 and then violent crime went up 40%. People can get invaded in there home because criminals have no fear of being stopped. They went further and started paying criminals off. Then they wanted to ban knifes because they have a sharp point on them. Its enough to make you think the terrorists have won in ruining their way of life by doing nothing more than sitting back and watching them do it to themselves.

I am not mad about Iraq either. We started it for whatever reason and I think that we should finish it. And surrendering when we are winning is something that makes as much sense to me as banning guns from the law abiding people to protect them from criminals. If they can't beat our forces head on its best to cater to the cowards behind the scenes (the media) who hate war, want to restart the 60's and will do anything to trash conservatives in the process. Progressives are evil/do gooders that are just getting progressively retarded. And a lot of it is coming from England.

That is my opinion on it please offer a different view if you have one. But offer proof too please. Vague and variable absolutes is what got them this far and the black magic doesn't work on me anymore.

This post should be deleted but its so good as to how I feel I can't do it. Sorry if I offended anyone it wasn't my intention.

 

I vote we send dlman to Iraq with all the guns he keeps hidden in his shorts.

 

I wouldn't need anything but ammo. They have the guns that I like over there. Never been shot and only dropped once. Besides, I think that my brother and sister can represent over there while I slap around the hippys talking shit over here.

 

Here is a short article about the various properties of gas by VP racing fuels:

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/vp_fuelprop.html

Using a higher octane fuel than is needed in your engine does not increase power, in many cases it actually decreases power. Octane is a flame retardant quality, it slows down the combustion of the fuel. The reason there is a minimum octane requirement is so that the fuel isn't too explosive in the engine, which causes knocking. If the octane rating on your fuel is too high, you can end up sending extra unburnt fuel out the exhaust pipes. The reason that racing fuels give more power is because they have better energy value and burning speed than regular fuels, not because they have higher octane ratings.

Also, don't use leaded racing gas in your bike, it will ruin your O2 sensors and catalytic converter.

 

Spike << very liberal in most areas

All of western Europe doesn't have the gun related homicides in a year that we have in a week.

So we invaded a sovereign nation for "what ever reason"? Is that really your argument?

The media is a pretty large spectrum of society at large politically; but certainly better informed than the society at large.

World wide, terrorist acts are up, not down, since Bushie the dense was elected.

 

Thanks for posting some examples of what I mean by variable absolutes.

So you ban the guns and there is no gun related homicide. Well that cherry pics information doesn't it. Crime rose sharply after the ban not lowered. Criminals didn't all of a sudden be nice to everyone they just switched weapons. But as long as they don't use a gun to hurt someone offensively and the innocent don't use them defensively then its ok that the innocent are still dead.

I know that we were looking for weapons that are banned. I think that is why. But if there was another reason it wasn't used at the time. Since we didn't find any we just can't tuck tail and run that would only gain favor of the French.

No they aren't. They are liberally biased jerks that can't even get the weather right. They have an agenda and they shouldn't be trusted. They only hope for socialist utopia that I can do without.

They are!! I haven't heard of any new planes being hijacked and flown into buildings. When the British and the Spain refuse to fight back they make themselves targets. IMHO. Look how long th riots lasted in the callow country of France. They couldn't deal with them at all. Was there a bottle thrown in anger in the US? No. I believe that they were afraid to temp us even further. We are still pissed because of what they did in the name of their religion.

No offense these are things that I believe and hold more water than liberal ideas.

But its always been Bush's fault isn't it. He must be pretty smart to play the world like a puppet like that. I guess looking like a normal guy is just a facade.

 

So here is a curve ball. But would one be able to gain more HP if they used premium fuel and advanced their timing? From what I have read super fuel resists detonation which works best for advanced timing. And advanceing timing will give you more power but might cause knocking if the wrong fuel is used. Am I on to something here?

 

I'm all for gas talk. Lets do it.

 

OK,back to gasoline.I just got my VFR 2000 about a month ago.However I have listened to many VFR people complain about their engines running hot.
For that reason, I am going to run hi-test(93 octane) . The rational being that
hi-test gas runs cooler than regular.So with all the complaints about overheating that I have read about on this forum my $ will go to premium.

 

WHAT THE?? that was was quite a segway! come on, more about fuel! im learning alot!!